Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Press ctrl + f5. The page will reload and you will find yourself logged in. The PM link will be there in the members' area. I am not having such issues, though.

Here's my information
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Signed, sealed and delivered to The Thieves by return receipt mail and I have the peson who signed for it's signature of my cancellation letter DATED March 2,2006
Refund DUE By April 27, 2006-- No response or Refund!!

If you need anymore info P.M. ME!!

Thanks ArDen, I tried doing the ctrl f5 and it didn't work for me. The welcome page displays with my name on it but then it says to please log in to read your messages.. Madmom, is that what it does on yours too?

thus is madmom and yes that is what it does to me too. crazy isn't it. it didn't use to do that.

Sorry i meant to put this is madmom not thus. Anyway i also tried the ctrl f5 also and it didn't work for me either.

Well now i am on her as madmom. It is crazy .

kristiec i sent you a pm with my info. its been awhile but im still following whats going on with this madness.

Thanks to all who have sent me your info. I will add you to a list that me and akell or gathering to send in to the FTC, IRS, and FBI. I have pm'd you all back.

If you want to be on this list, please pm akell or me with your full name, address, phone and/or email, amount owed, and date of cancellation.

Thanks again!

How do I send my personal info to get placed on the list without getting a free debt counseling. I am burnt on debt consolidation companies.

Since I am new to this forum I missed all the talk about what everyone is going to do on the 10th regarding MMG. Could you fill me in please? I would like to get my money back from MMG, also. Thanks.

lmagazzine,
I hate to say it, but you must read the entire forum. You need to familiarize yourself with all the particulars we have all been through.
Most Importantly create a story about when you started with MMG/RMP all the coverage you had, (example what they were suppose to take care of for you) steps you took to contact them, and then how you became aware of this forum and cancelled with RMP. Put that together and submit via e-mail on August 10th to the above mentioned agencies.
Please feel free to p.m. also if you have any questions!!
Welcome to the fight!
Mary from Mass

Thank you Mary! I will sit down this evening and read the entire forum. We can't let these people do this to us and get away with it! I have received a court judgment against me from one of my creditors because they never settled with them. I owe way more now to the company because of interest and court fees that were added to the balance.
Lori from PA

To Guest, you can pm me or akell with your full name, address, phone and/or email address, amount owed, and date of cancellation. If you are not a member, you can email me a kcallander @ msn.com

Are the only 2 choices out there to settle the debt is lump sum (rmp has that, I have no savings for the lump sum), or bankruptcy? What are most doing?

Hi Ray in PA, try to hold off on both for as long as you can. I held off for 4 years and I was never taken to court, though I did receive a few collection notices towards the end. The problem is, the bankrupcy laws have changed dramatically. It is not as easy and much more costly to claim bankrupcy, you are first referred to a debt company to help you, and if that does not work, you go before a judge that gives you a payment plan to pay off the debt. I managed to settle $14,400 worth of debt for under $4900. I called one that the balance was over $6,000 and told them I only had $2200 to pay them and if they did not settle my debt with that, that I would then have to negotiate with one of my other debtors. They were all willing to settle way below what I actually owed them. If you want more specifics of the other debt balances and what I settled them for, I can post it. I did not want to claim bankrupcy so I just held out and fortunately, RMP gave me most of my money... at least enough to start negotiating with the creditors. PM me with your info to be put on our list.

Akell, are you still out there? PM me so we can coordinate this list or you can email me at kcallander @ msn.com.

Is skipper out there? Do you already have a list going? If so, can we talk? I have a list growing but need more names to really make an impact.

I had to file Bankruptcy, and the trustee that works for the creditors couldn't believe my story. I showed them all the paperwork from MMg/RMP over the two years I was with them. The trustee can look immediatley at your credit history and she saw that I had not used or even tried to use those cards in two years. She told my lawyer to file a D5 exemption on behalf of my plight from these (THIEVES). That makes a huge difference with the new laws, if you have not tried to use your credit cards or apply for new ones in the whole time you were with those THIEVES at RMP.
P.M. me and I'll explain the rest about the law. I don't want those (THIEVES) reading my help to you.
Mary from MASS

Jerryhavis, I pm'd you back. mfk, I am interested in learning what you are talking about, can you pm the info to me?

KristieC, I just pm'd you with my info for the list.

Thanks!

KristieC, I just pm'd you with my info for the list.

Our Mississippi State Attorney General said they would help me out after I sent a formal letter to the Stantons and MMG/RMP. I sent the same letter to Mike Gerity. I have to wait 10 days with no reply from them then go back to the Attorney Generals office.
Thanks

I received a letter from the Ohio Attorney General saying they have become aware through a review of several different records that I had difficulty with MMG. We (the Attorney General) are in the process of reviewing the business practices of RMP.

The Attorney General is asking if I would like them to review my transactions. They also included a complaint form to fill out.

I was curious if anybody else in Ohio received the same from the Attorney General's office. If you haven't here's some information that might be helpful.
State of Ohio
Office of the Attorney General
Consumer Protection Section
30 E. Broad St., 14th Fl.
Columbus, OH 43215-3400
(614) 466-8831

As Schim21's ex,I give her all the credit for the tireless effort she used to continually send information to any party that might help our situation. We were one of the lucky ones to get a refund but were still killed by all the accumulated interest and late fees.

Team, I look at us all as a team working against Hyla and her crew. I haven't visited in a while mostly due to frustration. Has anyone received a refund in the last few months. I cancelled about 6 months ago and requested a refund with little response other than the standard reply of 4-6 weeks. No luck calling or E-mailing. They owe me about $2800. I've heard back from the Attorney General in my state (Michigan) basically saying that they could not help and that I should look for legal council and that they would keep my info on file for future reference.
Please let me know if anyone is having any luck.

ok i have just written to my attorney general again hoping to get a response. i just can not believe that no one is taking action and catching these crooks. i hope someone will finally say enough is enough.

k

Good response for the list so far... out of the 20 people on the list, the balance owed to us is $157,919.60!

If you want your name on this list that will be submitted to the FTC, FBI, and IRS, please pm me or email me kcallander @ msn.com. I need to know your name, address, phone and/or email, balance owed to you (include all fees you want back), and date of cancellation.

My brother in law is a Federal Marshal. He told us to talk to the post master general, because my payments were sent through the mail and also other correspondence with the company. I did not find out about a problem until my payment was returned because the offices have apparently been closed or moved again. My internet has been down and was not back up until just recently can anyone summarize what is going on.

Bruce, the best way to summarize this is you were scammed... Like all of us. You really need to read this entire site, yes it takes a while, but you will understand more once you do. I am compiling a list of names for a list to be sent in on the 10th to the FTC, FBI, and IRS. Read my post above to get my info and email me your info if you want on this list.

Kristiec, That is an amazing amount of money they scammed out of just 20 of us. And there are probably 100's if not a thousand more victims so times that many more and dang, that is a lot of money!! not to mention other people they scam like on e-bay... SHeesh..SICK!!!

by the way this is swtgal77.. I can't seem to log in anymore!!

I would also love to tack on another thousand for the bankruptcy I had to file.. swtgal77

hey i didnt even include what i had to pay for bankruptcy. i would be happy just to get that money back but if money for bankruptcy is included i can say it cost me $350 more.

k

Kristie, i sent you a pm. And goofy14you, it costed me $849.00 for the bankrupcy thing so check your files and see if you are correct on that amount but maybe it is different in different states, anyway mine was last year and the law changed just after i had to file over these scammers so who knows whether it even matters in what they owe to everyone. It is terrible just terrible. I couldn't sleep at night if i hurt one persons life in anyway let alone hundreds of people like all of us that trusted them to help us. It just isn't fair. Justice will be served though, we all have to hang in here together.

Kristie,
I pm'd you. Add me to the list for $4900. Amazing!!! so many of us--and there is probably so many more. I wonder if we can get someone to run an announcement somewhere?

KristieC, thanks for doing the wok on compiling the list. I can't believe that with only 20 people... that's a lot of money. SOOOOOOO many people trusted MMG/RMP. It'll be interesting to know how much in total they've scammed people. It's probably impossible to get every single individual, i'm pretty sure, many people still doesn't know about this forum.

Once again, thanks

I hope hyla burns in hell!

Hi all,

If you have emailed me or pm'd me about the list, I have sent you messages back.... if you have not gotten a message back from me, I did not receive your message for some reason. The list is growing which will really help our case.

If you have not sent me info for the list, you can pm me or email me at kcallander @ msn.com. I need to know name, address, phone/email, balance owed to you (include all fees you feel are yours), & date of cancellation. If you need to change the amount you said was owed to you, you will have to message me again about it.

26 people on list, $189,629.26 WOW!

When this list grows, someone has to take notice, please send Kristie your information.

And if you are including Bankruptcy charges tack on 2,149.00 for mine to file.

Keep fighting and keep submitting to every agency!!

Mary from Mass

I signed with Jubilee/Risk Mangement properties. Tried to get hold of their Texas address. Tried to get hold of the lawyer. Now they ran off with 2500 in my trust with them. I am now taking on every creditor one at a time. This will cripple us financially. Better this than to be sued.

Heath

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Is everyone using the 1099 misc form to show the income that the Stanton's took from us to the IRS, then sending a copy to the Calle de Arcos address so the post office can send it to their forwarding address? Imagine the tax they would have to come up with if all just sent in the 1099?
Stanton's, if you returned our money then that is not income to you and you wouldn't have to pay a tax on over $200,000 and the IRS wouldn't be chasing you.
GIVE US BACK OUR MONEY

I am only taking balances that you email me or PM me... I don't have time to add additional money to numbers you already gave me everytime you repost something. If you want to change your 'balance owed to you', you must re-email me or pm me the new total. I think adding in these additional fees will complicate things... unless you have paperwork stating the bankrupcy charges. This becomes a very grey area and I was hoping we could keep this black and white. Again, I do not need to know what was paid in, what was given to individual credit card companies, what was paid to bankrupcy... I just need to know what you consider as your 'balance owed to you', and if this includes other fees then fine but let's keep this straight forward... at least for my sanity.

Thanks!

Yes, I agree we need to keep things straight foward. I was more or less just venting/commenting out loud about how much more they cost me, not to mention all the other costs because of ruined credit. Which, I believe most if not all of us have had to deal with because of the situation mmg/rmp put all of us through, who we all trusted and invested our money to, to help save us from the very situations we are now in. But yes, I do agree that we should all stick to the amounts we think we are owed, bankruptcy included or not... And good work on the list kristiec!!!!

*Also good job to everyone on submitting your info to kristiec, lets keep up the great list we have going and if we can't all get what we think were owed hopefully we will all get to see what we think is owed to the stantons/rmp/mmg/jubliee/crimedoesntpay/killerkustoms/chromelotuswheels/what ever the heck other names they also prey under... (and I don't mean "pray" cause other wise I think we would all think they were truely a 'miracle" that managed our money the right way...)

swtgal77

Can anyone pm me both ss#'s for them? I need this for one of the complaints I am going to send. Thanks.

kristie c - you are set up as a guest - we can't pm you!

I have gotten many pm's for over a year now since I joined this forum, including several over the last 2 weeks for the list... I am not sure why you are having problems shafted. My user name is kristiec. It may be just the site... it seems to be glitchy at times.

kristiec plz put me on the list for 4299.00 my email is email address removed as per forum rules - Mike thx

Rallen, to be put on list you have to email me or pm me with all your info that I have requested. Thanks.

Name
address
phone/email
balance owed to you
date of cancellation

rallen,

I tried to email you but it did not work... please email me your info at kcallander @ msn.com

I called nine seven two - three seven five-one two nine two.

I have waited to send in the list as more and more people email me on a daily basis with their info. The more people we have, the stronger our case is. I am hoping to send this out next week because as it stands now, 34 people, $226,903.25.

discover_580, I sent you back a message... please respond soon with your balance owed.... thanks.

i won't be surprise if everyone really make it on list, te total will probably reach a million $$$?