Mr Martin at Law Firm of Fred Kelly called frm #866-780-8900
Date: Mon, 12/05/2005 - 11:01
Mr Martin at Law Firm of Fred Kelly called frm #866-780-8900
Thanks!
Hi gardnerjl Welcome to the forums. Since your SSN# is att
Hi gardnerjl
Welcome to the forums.
Since your SSN# is attached to this account, you need to know the details of this account. Call them and request for a debt validation letter. This will help you to get the accurate picture of this account.
You need not to make any payment agreements as long as the company has truly identified this debt. Request for their mailing address and get this account validated.
Regards
Roxette
Validation Letter
When I call them back won't they demand $$$$ I don't have any to send them this month and don't want to be harassed at work. He stated he needed to advise me of the severity of this account?
I don't want any more headaches from debt collectors at work. They have to send me something in writing before they can act, correct? I requested that from another bill collector and they said that in the meantime they would proceed with the action of what they deemed necessary. Is this just a scare tactic?
They should not demand $$$$$ unless you have verified the debt v
They should not demand $$$$$ unless you have verified the debt validation letter relating to this account. And moreover, you will get 30 days if there is anything to dispute on it. If the CA demands for money, tell them that you won't make payments unless you go through the details of the debt account.
Yes, they will have to send you in writing before they can take any actions against you. If any agency threatens you with legal actions before the debt is validated in writing, you will have to take precautionary measures on that note.
If they call you at work or home, inform the caller that you are recording the call for legal purpose. State the point that you have requested for debt validation which is not been served to you. You will necessary points to defend yourself if the matter is taken to the court.
If you don't call them, they might perhaps, take some actions that can go against you. So, you should place the call to them and request for what is necessary regarding this account.
Also, send a written letter to the company requesting for the same info. Send it through certified mail with return receipt requested. You will have proof of your actions being taken regarding this account.
Do you have their mailing address?
Address
No, I don't have their address or even the correct contact name. I will forward the letter but do I need to call them, also. I understand my rights but the last time I contacted the party that called me they threatened me with court proceedings while I was researching and validating the debt...I don't want that hassle or headache again.
Thanks for your prompt response. It is greatly appreciated. Do you have the address and contact person. The gentleman spoke so quickly it was hard to hear. There maybe a message at my home phone also.
Do not fear or get nervous while calling them. I can understand
Do not fear or get nervous while calling them. I can understand from your past experiences with other collection agencies but this is the only option for locating them accurately. Check in your home phone if they have left any address to contact them.
I have searched for them online but lack of proper information is not giving me accurate results.
Contact
I will go home this evening and check the machine for a message from them. IF they left one there maybe the message will be more detailed. I will contact them tomorrow. I believe within a day should be OK. I cannot contact them during the workday because my workplace is a cubicle environment.
Thanks again for your assistance!
Do not use the work phone. Use a payphone to call them.
Do not use the work phone. Use a payphone to call them.
I won't. I will use my cell phone and block the number, won't t
I won't. I will use my cell phone and block the number, won't that work OK. If not, I will call from a pay phone at lunch time....
Cell phone number will get entered in their system and they migh
Cell phone number will get entered in their system and they might try to misuse it later. I fear if they sell it to any other agency later.
Payphone will be the best option.
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Cell phone number will get entered in their system and they might try to misuse it later. I fear if they sell it to any other agency later. |
how woud it be 'misused'?
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Payphone will be the best option. |
skip tracing is a wonderful tool. if a person evades a debt, someone can skip trace their ss# and find out every single # they've used in their name, their families name and sometimes past roommates and significant others. i love skip tracing. it's fun to get someone on the line who simply says 'and how did you get my number?'
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I was not trying to not have someone get ahold of me but being harassed at work by a bill collector is a bit overwhelming. They did not leave a message at home. Thanks to KarmaPolice for their information regarding people getting ahold of your #'s because I wondered how one bill collector got ahold of my parents' phone number and not only harassed me at home and at work but at my parents' house as well. It is not that I am unwilling to pay back the debt, it would just be best to let me deal with it myself without being harassed.
Thank you.
One thing I might want to mention is that you cannot block 800#'
One thing I might want to mention is that you cannot block 800#'s. This is a protection issue to avoid threats towards agencies. However, if you had their local you number, you can block the number with the *67.
Do you have any other contact information about this "law firm". They only answer law office when you call, so it could be another name or an actual collection agency similiar to Anthony Galloway or Ted Crosby.
Regards-
Mike
Other Number
There was another number on my home phone that I believe may have been them, it began with 713 and I forget the rest. When I looked it up on the computer it showed a collection or recovery company/law firm in Texas. I believe they are like the others. I will contact them shortly but this is the first contact they have attempted to make towards me.
Thanks for the note on the 800#. If you call them and use *67 it still shows the #?
I appreciate everyones input.
[quote=Quest]If you call them and use *67 it still shows the #?[
[quote=Quest]If you call them and use *67 it still shows the #?[/quote]
Yes, you cannot block 800#'s. It is very difficult for a private residense or a business block the number from going throw.
They'll see your number, or area code (if you call from a payphone) and chances are will be able to find you that way too. Be careful when going around them. If you plan on calling from another number, be prepared to give them at least your name. Once they get the area code, they can do searches by everyone that lives in that city/state. collection agencies are getting trickier.
Regards-
Mike
Mr. Martin
I just received another voicemail at work from the Mr. Martin telling me I had until 7 p.m. tonight to return his phone call and attempt to proceed with a payment in full of the balance due, over $1,000. I have never borrowed that much from a pay day loan company ever. When I can them back can I ask for validation in writing? I did receive one letter from them but they didn't state when this account was activated, etc. I have already been scammed by these bill collectors and although I want to make payment arrangements to pay off my debts, I want to do so with the right people and for only what I owe.
How do I move ahead with this. Additionally, I have been paying off other debts slowly but have received no statement from the company showing my payments. Can I not request this in writing before send any more money?
Please HELP.
Thanks!
gardnerjl I'm assuming this is the letter you are talking abo
gardnerjl
I'm assuming this is the letter you are talking about?
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Your Name 123 Your Street Address Your City, ST 01234 ABC Collections 123 NotOnYourLife Ave Chicago, IL Date: Re: Acct # XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX To Whom It May Concern: This letter is being sent to you in response to a notice sent to me on September 30, 2002). Be advised that this is not a refusal to pay, but a notice sent pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 USC 1692g Sec. 809 (b) that your claim is disputed and validation is requested. This is NOT a request for ???verification??? or proof of my mailing address, but a request for VALIDATION made pursuant to the above named Title and Section. I respectfully request that your offices provide me with competent evidence that I have any legal obligation to pay you. Please provide me with the following: What the money you say I owe is for; Explain and show me how you calculated what you say I owe; Provide me with copies of any papers that show I agreed to pay what you say I owe; Provide a verification or copy of any judgment if applicable; Identify the original creditor; Prove the Statute of Limitations has not expired on this account Show me that you are licensed to collect in my state Provide me with your license numbers and Registered Agent At this time I will also inform you that if your offices have reported invalidated information to any of the 3 major Credit Bureau's (Equifax, Experian or TransUnion) this action might constitute fraud under both Federal and State Laws. Due to this fact, if any negative mark is found on any of my credit reports by your company or the company that you represent I will not hesitate in bringing legal action against you for the following: Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act Violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act Defamation of Character If your offices are able to provide the proper documentation as requested in the following Declaration, I will require at least 30 days to investigate this information and during such time all collection activity must cease and desist. Also during this validation period, if any action is taken which could be considered detrimental to any of my credit reports, I will consult with my legal counsel for suit. This includes any listing any information to a credit reporting repository that could be inaccurate or invalidated or verifying an account as accurate when in fact there is no provided proof that it is. If your offices fail to respond to this validation request within 30 days from the date of your receipt, all references to this account must be deleted and completely removed from my credit file and a copy of such deletion request shall be sent to me immediately. I would also like to request, in writing, that no telephone contact be made by your offices to my home or to my place of employment. If your offices attempt telephone communication with me, including but not limited to computer generated calls and calls or correspondence sent to or with any third parties, it will be considered harassment and I will have no choice but to file suit. All future communications with me MUST be done in writing and sent to the address noted in this letter by USPS. It would be advisable that you assure that your records are in order before I am forced to take legal action. This is an attempt to correct your records, any information obtained shall be used for that purpose. Best Regards, Your Signature Your Name |
Hi gardnerjl Welcome to the forums. As per the fdcpa law,
Hi gardnerjl
Welcome to the forums.
As per the fdcpa law, it is you legal right to ask for a debt validation in writing. You can do so after the collection agency has placed a contact for the said account.
While you are making regular payments to the collection agency, they should send you an itemized statement showing the payments received. Talk to the company and know the latest standing of the account. You need to make sure whether the money is surely going towards your debt account.
After the account is paid in full, the collection agency must update this account with the bureaus and it will be shown as 'paid collection' in your file. Thus, no other agency can contact you for this account in the future.
Please talk to the company handling your accounts and get the latest information.
Regards
Roxette
need a letter i can send to a AmeriLoan for proof of bill
I need someone to respond to my questions, ameriloan a loan to payday company keep giving different amounts as to what I owe. (I did take out a loan with them) and now they claim they have turned my account over to lawyer for for collection. When I asked if I could call the Law firm, I was told by a representative she couldnt give me that information, but she would make payments arrangements with me. I asked her to send me a breakdown of what I owe and how they arrived at that amount, she said she could only send me what I owe now. I have not rec'd that paper work yet and now its time to pay the amount she quoted me. Help I need advise, (I'm afraid they will take me to court)>
Shirley, don't get scared of ameriloan. They need to follow the
Shirley, don't get scared of ameriloan. They need to follow the legal procedures before taking the matter to the court. All the documentation related to the loan account must be given to you upon request. Send a letter through certified mail with return receipt request and cover your basis. Request them for the breakdown of the total amount in the letter. They are bound by laws to give you this information. Don't panic and send them money. It might happen that may or may not post your money towards the account. Talk to a consultant. He will handle this matter professionally.
If I read the original post correctly, it sounded like a voice m
If I read the original post correctly, it sounded like a voice mail was left. Did they read the social security number over the phone and leave it on voice mail. Oh boy, that is a hugh no-no
Whatever happened with this?
Not to be nosey, it is just that they are calling me and not sure what to do.
Thanks
Received phone call
Hi my sister has been recieving phone calls from this law office. I called them back and spoke to a Mr Burns who was very nasty on the phone and not very helpful. He is claiming that i owe a balance of $1500 to someone i have never heard of before and that funds were deposited into a bank account with National Commerce Financial, which i have never banked with before. Now he saying that i don't want to care out of the debt when all i asked was info about the collection and who it was thru and trying to get all i needed to know whether or not it was legitimate and he would not fax the documentation to me and just hung up the phone. Then he said that he would fdaxing over some papers to my county court office for further processing in this matter. My question is first does anyone know what this means as further processing on intent to fraud and are they required to provide me with documentation of this account to me showing it is mine, and 2nd does this mean i am going to court or arrested or something and 3rd are they allowed to record your conversation without first telling you that is going to be recorded, if they do are they required to allow you to listen to the recording. Any information will be very helpful.