Payday loans not legal in NC
Date: Tue, 04/18/2006 - 12:27
Payday loans not legal in NC
Were these loans at local offices or over the internet? I'm not
Were these loans at local offices or over the internet? I'm not sure who your loans are with, but many of the larger payday lenders in NC have agreed to voluntarily stop collecting interest and fees on these loans. They have a limited amount of time to collect the principal only. These lenders include: Check Into Cash, Check n Go, and First American Cash Advance.
over the internet I am at my wits end I am going to open a savin
over the internet I am at my wits end I am going to open a savings account for my direct deposit and close my checking otherwise I cant pay my other bills
I am now a member I was the guest who started this ??? please he
I am now a member I was the guest who started this ??? please help
its a good idea to protect your funds by changing accounts. Tehn
its a good idea to protect your funds by changing accounts. Tehn you can work on dealing witht he lenders.
Keep in mind that they may threaten you with many things but can actually do very little. Join here and you can pm me with specific questions and I will gladly help you deal with them,as will any of the members here
Internet payday loan companies evade laws by hiding their identi
Internet payday loan companies evade laws by hiding their identity. They frequently change their web address and rarely disclose the name of the parent company behind the curtain. They do not maintain a physical location in the states where they lend money.
North Carolina has banned PDL since 2001, out-of-state lenders claim that they are not abided by the laws; however, the statement needs a review.
responsiblelending.org/news_headlines/122205release.cfm
BTW, guest you are not logged in to the forum.
I had to change accounts I have 2 kids that have to eat and the
I had to change accounts I have 2 kids that have to eat and the pdl were taking all of my cash
I just got an email from us fast cash and they said they don't m
I just got an email from us fast cash and they said they don't make other payment arrangements what now???
try sending us fast cash this email
It has come to my attention that you are operating in violation of NOrth Carolina law, which explicitly forbids payday (deferred deposit) lending. This law applies to any payday loans made to NOrth Carolina Residents regardless of the state of origin or contractual jurisdiction agreements.
Irrespective of our contract, you appear to be conducting business in violation of this governing law. This violation renders our contract illegal in the State of North Carolina, rendering ay terms agreed to therein null and void.
In order to settle my account and avoid any liability I may have by being party to an illegal transaction, I am willing to settle my account with a
>final, single payment of_$_______________. I will upon your written acceptance of the above
terms, provide you with this payment using certified funds (money order or cashier's check.
On advice of counsel however, I am hereby immediately revoking my previous authorization for ACH/Electronic withdrawal and any actual or claimed voluntary wage assignment due to the fact that the loan was made in violation of North Carolina State Law.
As stated above I will be forwarding a letter to you stating the same via facsimile and US mail. A copy of this email is also being forwarded to my
Legal counsel. I have not, at this time forwarded documentation to North Carolina State Regulatory officials.
I will expect your reply within 48 hours or I will be forced to escalate my efforts to resolve this issue.
Will that really work, and are they illegal if they are on line?
Will that really work, and are they illegal if they are on line?
From the way I understand it, North Carolina has banned all payd
From the way I understand it, North Carolina has banned all payday lenders even the internet ones.
I will find the article and pm it to you. If some else finds it
I will find the article and pm it to you. If some else finds it I'm sure they will do the same.
Quote:AN ACT to prevent predatory payday loan practices and regu
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AN ACT to prevent predatory payday loan practices and regulate state deferred deposit transactions, and to provide additional consumer DISCLOSURES and protections. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts: SECTION 1. G.S. 53‑275 reads as rewritten: "?? 53‑275. Definitions. As used in this Article, unless the context clearly requires otherwise, the term: (1) "Cashing" means providing currency for payment instruments, but does not include the bona fide sale or exchange of travelers checks and foreign denomination payment instruments. (2) "Check‑cashing service" means any person or entity engaged in the business of cashing checks, drafts, or money orders for a fee, service charge, or other consideration. (3) "Commission" means the State Banking Commission. (4) "Commissioner" means the Commissioner of Banks. (4a) "Deferred deposit transaction" means a check‑cashing or similar loan transaction in which a person pays a cash advance to a consumer in return for a check dated on the date it was written and agrees to hold the check for a period of days prior to deposit or presentment, or accepts a postdated check and agrees to hold the check for deposit or presentment at least until the date written on the check. The term shall also include any such arrangement in which a person pays a cash advance in return for an authorization from a consumer for a draft or electronic debit rather than a check. (4b) "Gross monthly income" means monthly income before the withholding of taxes or other payments, as demonstrated by official documentation of the income, including a pay stub or receipt reflecting payment of government benefits for the period 30 days prior to the date on which the loan is made. (4c) "Lender" means the following: a. Any person or entity that offers or makes a deferred deposit transaction, arranges a deferred deposit transaction for a third party, or acts as an agent for a third party, regardless of whether the third party is exempt from licensing under this Article or whether approval, acceptance, or ratification by the third party is necessary to create a legal obligation for the third party. b. Notwithstanding the foregoing, a State or federally chartered bank, savings and loan association, credit union, or supervised lender shall not be considered a lender for purposes of this Article and shall be specifically exempt from provisions of this Article so long as all of the following are satisfied: 1. It initially advances the loan proceeds to the borrower. 2. It does not sell, assign, or transfer in the aggregate a preponderant economic interest in the deferred deposit transactions to an arranger, agent, or assistant, or an affiliate or subsidiary of the State or federally chartered bank, savings and loan association, credit union, or supervised lender, unless selling, assigning, or transferring a preponderant economic interest is permitted by the primary regulator of the State or federally chartered bank, savings and loan association, credit union, or supervised lender. 3. It develops the deferred deposit transaction program on its own. c. If a lender offers, arranges, acts as an agent for, or assists a State or federally chartered bank, savings and loan association, credit union, or supervised lender in any way in the making of a deferred deposit transaction and the State or federally chartered bank, savings and loan association, credit union, or supervised lender meets the standards set forth in sub‑subdivision b. of this subdivision, the lender shall comply with all other provisions of this Article to the extent they are not preempted by other State or federal laws. (5) "Licensee" means a person or entity licensed to engage in a check‑cashing business under this Article. (5a) "Loan amount" means the amount financed as defined in Regulation 'Z' of the federal Truth‑in‑Lending Act (12 C.F.R. ?? 226.18(b). (6) "Person" means an individual, partnership, association, or corporation." SECTION 2. G.S. 53‑276 reads as rewritten: "?? 53‑276. License required. No person or other entity may engage in the business of cashing checks, drafts, or money orders for consideration consideration, nor engage in the business of making deferred deposit transactions without first obtaining a license under this Article. No person or other entity providing a check‑cashing service may avoid the requirements of this Article by providing a check or other currency equivalent instead of currency when cashing payment instruments." SECTION 3. Article 22 of Chapter 53 of the General Statutes is amended by adding the following new sections to read: "?? 53‑281.1. Deferred deposit transactions permitted. Lenders may make deferred deposit transactions pursuant to the following requirements: (1) The face amount of the deferred deposit check shall not exceed five hundred dollars ($500.00) or twenty‑five percent (25%) of the borrower's gross monthly income, whichever is less. (2) Each deferred deposit check cashed by a lender shall be deemed to be a loan and shall be documented by a written agreement as provided in G.S. 53‑281.2. (3) A lender shall not directly or indirectly charge a fee or other consideration in excess of fifteen percent (15%) of the face amount of the check. (4) No check cashed under the provisions of this section shall be repaid by the proceeds of another check cashed by the same lender or any affiliate of the lender. A lender shall not, for any consideration, renew or otherwise extend any deferred deposit check or withhold the check from deposit for any period beyond the time set forth in the written agreement, except as allowed under G.S. 53‑281.4. "?? 53‑281.2. Written agreement and disclosures required for deferred deposit transactions. (a) Each deferred deposit transaction shall be documented by a written agreement signed by the borrower and the lender. A legible copy of the agreement shall be provided to the borrower. (b) The written agreement shall contain: (1) The name and address of the borrower. (2) The name, local street address, and telephone number of the lender. (3) The transaction date, which shall be prominently labeled. (4) The loan amount as defined in G.S. 53‑275(5a). (5) The amount of any fees charged, expressed as both a dollar amount and as an effective annual percentage rate (apr). (6) The maturity date, which shall be no less than 10 days nor more than 30 days after the transaction date. (7) The following notice immediately above the borrower's signature line in at least ten‑point type: THIS TRANSACTION IS NOT MEANT TO MEET LONG‑TERM FINANCIAL NEEDS AND SHOULD BE USED ONLY TO MEET SHORT‑TERM CASH NEEDS. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CANCEL THIS TRANSACTION AT ANY TIME BEFORE 5:00 P.M. ON THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY AFTER THE TRANSACTION DATE SHOWN ABOVE. TO CANCEL YOU MUST RETURN ALL OF THE CASH PROCEEDS TO THE LENDER. THE LENDER WILL REFUND TO YOU ALL FEES IF YOU CANCEL THIS TRANSACTION. (c) The written agreement shall be accompanied by a separate paper which contains all disclosures required by the federal Truth‑in‑Lending Act (12 U.S.C. ?? 1601, et seq.,) and the federal Reserve Board Regulation 'Z' and the consumer education information. The consumer education information shall be prepared by the Commissioner and shall inform the consumer of matters such as the complaint process through the Commissioner's office, the relative cost of short‑term consumer loans, the availability of other forms of credit, the right of the customer to elect a repayment plan, and any other matters the Commissioner thinks are necessary or beneficial to consumers. (d) The written agreement shall not contain any of the following provisions: (1) A hold harmless clause. (2) A confession of judgment clause. (3) A mandatory arbitration clause that does not comply with the standards set forth in the statement of principles of the National Consumer Dispute Advisory Committee of the American Arbitration Association in effect on the effective date of this act. (4) Any provision in which the borrower agrees not to assert a claim or defense arising out of the contract. (5) Any waiver by the borrower of any provision of this Article. (e) In addition to providing the written agreement, prior to entering a deferred deposit transaction, the lender shall verbally inform the borrower of the following: (1) The borrower has the right to cancel the transaction and how the borrower can exercise this right. (2) The terms of the transaction including the loan amount, the amount of any fees charged, expressed both as a dollar amount and as an annual percentage rate. (3) The right of the borrower to elect a mandatory repayment plan and how the borrower can exercise this right. "?? 53‑281.3. Deferred deposit transactions limited. (a) A lender shall not knowingly enter into a deferred deposit transaction with a borrower whom the lender knows has other transactions in the aggregate exceeding five hundred dollars ($500.00) or twenty‑five percent (25%) of the borrower's gross monthly income, whichever is less. It shall be mandatory for the lender to obtain from the borrower a certification signed by the borrower in substantially the following form: "I UNDERSTAND THAT NORTH CAROLINA LAW PROHIBITS A PERSON FROM HAVING MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500.00) OR TWENTY‑FIVE PERCENT (25%) OF THE BORROWER'S GROSS MONTHLY INCOME, WHICHEVER IS LESS, IN DEFERRED DEPOSIT CHECKS OUTSTANDING AT ONE TIME. I OWE THE FOLLOWING DEFERRED DEPOSIT AMOUNTS AND NO OTHERS: (Write the amount you owe and the names of the licensees or write 'NONE'). This certification shall not constitute the basis of a criminal prosecution under G.S. 14‑100." (b) A lender must pay the proceeds from a deferred deposit transaction to the borrower in the form of a check, cash, or debit card. (c) No lender shall enter into a deferred deposit transaction with a borrower who has elected a mandatory repayment plan as provided in G.S. 53‑281.4 on two separate occasions within a calendar year unless the borrower obtains counseling from a credit counseling service approved by the Commissioner. (d) After a deferred deposit transaction has been paid in full by the borrower or upon successful completion of a mandatory repayment plan, the lender shall not enter into a new deferred deposit transaction with the borrower until after 8:00 A.M. on the next day after the payment. "?? 53‑281.4. Mandatory repayment plan. If the borrower elects and so informs the lender at any time prior to the maturity date of the deferred deposit transaction, the borrower may declare an inability to repay and the lender shall accept a mandatory repayment plan with the following terms: (1) The borrower and the lender sign a repayment plan agreement providing for four equal installments due on each of the borrower's next four paydays, with at least 14 days between the installments. (2) The borrower agrees not to enter into any additional deferred deposit transactions during the term of the repayment plan. (3) Upon completion of the plan, the borrower is prohibited from entering into any deferred deposit transactions with any lender for at least one pay period. (4) The lender may collect a fifteen‑dollar ($15.00) processing charge for each repayment plan. "?? 53‑281.5. Prohibited practices regarding deferred deposit transactions. In addition to the prohibited practices under G.S. 53‑283, the following are prohibited regarding deferred deposit transactions: (1) Taking or attempting to take any security other than the borrower's instrument. (2) Taking or attempting to take more than a single check or other instrument from the borrower in connection with a single transaction. (3) Selling, offering, or soliciting any application for credit insurance in connection with a transaction. (4) Tying the transaction to any other transaction, offer, or obligation of the borrower. (5) Failing to comply with the Commissioner's request for assistance in resolving a complaint. (6) Using or threatening to use criminal process to collect a dishonored check, unless fraud is involved. (7) Assigning or selling to another lender an instrument taken in connection with a deferred deposit transaction unless the instrument bears the following endorsement: THIS INSTRUMENT WAS GIVEN BY ITS MAKER TO SECURE A DEFERRED DEPOSIT TRANSACTION UNDER G.S. 53‑281.1 AND THE ASSIGNEE IS DEEMED TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF AND SHALL BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE LOAN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BORROWER AND THE ORIGINAL LENDER. (8) Failing to collect and provide information regarding the number, total, and average transaction amounts and any other information the Commissioner may request. "?? 53‑281.6. Practices concerning members of the military. (a) A licensee shall defer collection activity against a borrower who is a member of the military and who has been deployed to a combat or combat support posting for the duration of the deployment. (b) A licensee may not contact the commanding officer of a borrower who is a member of the military in an effort to collect on a deferred deposit transaction. (c) Licensees must honor the terms of any repayment plan that they have entered into with any borrower, including a repayment agreement negotiated through military counselors or third‑party credit counselors." |
The calls have started and I am afraid to answer my phone. I wo
The calls have started and I am afraid to answer my phone. I work night shift and now I can't even sleep during the day without the phone calls. I am in default as of this past monday and I have been called and emailed by everyone of the companies. I am closing my checking account tomorrow and opening another at another bank just to make sure they din't grt the account number. Now what to do I am very meek and I know if I could get a backbone that I could tell them that they are illegal in NC but I am a chicken Anyone got a backbone I can borrow!!!
Have you written them letters stating that they are illegal in N
Have you written them letters stating that they are illegal in NC?
I don't know if this would work for you, but could you turn the ringer off on your phone? Or unplug it. I know it's a drastic step, but you have to be able to sleep so you can function at work.
And you can share my backbone. :)
Thanks set4sail!! I may need it. I just found this site yesterda
Thanks set4sail!! I may need it. I just found this site yesterday and had to work last night so I am in the process of composing a letter to them but with no backbone it isn't easy. I don't even know where to start
I think the letter jj posted is excellent. I would copy and past
I think the letter jj posted is excellent. I would copy and paste that, and use it as a basis for your letter.
And you have already started- you stopped continuing to pay into these companies pockets, and are changing banks to prevent them withdrawing more money. Have you considered signing up with a debt consolitation company to help you get these lenders paid off?
Yes I signed up on this site and haven't heard anything yet I do
Yes I signed up on this site and haven't heard anything yet I don't deny that I borrowed the money but I don't have the extra imcome to pay the outragous intrest and I have one calling that I don't even know. In NC they made PDLs illegal because of the intrest charged but as I said no backbone
It might take 1 or 2 days to receive the call from the counselor
It might take 1 or 2 days to receive the call from the counselor. If it takes more time, you should contact the site admin and he will arrange the free counseling for you.
Hi Diane The internet payday loan company has to be licensed
Hi Diane
The internet payday loan company has to be licensed in your state first before they can lend out any loans to you. Check with the attorney general office in your state and know about the companies you have taken the loan from.
Also, the lending company should charge within the permissible interest rates in your state. It will be illegal if they charge excessive fees from the consumers.
That is so true........make sure that you call the Attorney Gene
That is so true........make sure that you call the Attorney General's office and the BBB asap.
If you live in North Carolina, payday lending is illegal and the
If you live in North Carolina, payday lending is illegal and the only thing you have to pay is the orginial amount borrowed. I would also use jj letter for companies that do not understand that you fall under NC Laws.
I live in North Carolina and found myself deep in debt from PDL'
I live in North Carolina and found myself deep in debt from PDL's. I ran across this site searching for answers and I found exactly what I was looking for. I found a letter that someone had posted and saved it. I used it just yesterday on 3 payday loan companies and have received responses from 2 stating that my account is now paid in full and I am no longer responsible for the account. I just sent another one to another company after I had realized I had overpaid them by $300. I did not attempt to send letters to ones that I had not paid at least the principal on.
nursmaj, i responded to your thread but something caught my eye.
nursmaj, i responded to your thread but something caught my eye.
for the ones that you owe money on, you should still send out letters stating that are illegal and to provide you with a physical address to mail money orders to for the remaining balanced owed.