Social answers

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I am not seeing the point in a second forum. I am seeing posts being duplicated in both forums. The same wrong and bad answers are being given by the same people. In social answers it is impossible to see if there are new replies as it only shows who started the thread...not who answered it last. It is simply doubling the work load for the mods.

We are here to help people in debt with good advice. Instead all I am seeing is terribly wrong advise being given by people who do not speak english as their first language and are guessing at the answers. IE...Anna Sweeting....I PM her all the time as do other mods and she continues to give potentially harmful information. She doesnt read the questions and simply echos other opinions. I have seen some of the articles she has written and even they are not giving complete or incorrect information.

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Are posters in Social Answers going to be required to register?? I am answering tons of "Anonymous" posts...however 95% of the time the original poster does not return, probably because they dont know they have a response. If they do return, or there is a new post, you need to go look for it since the thread is not pushed to the top. It is so frustrating!!!

Jason,

Personally, I cannot stand the Social Answers format. It's cumbersome to navigate, extremely time consuming to keep up with the questions you've answered, etc. Let alone the fact that I've had to go back and rewrite my own posts because someone didn't like the answer I gave them so they edited MY post.

Once you make the final switch over to this format, I likely won't be participating anymore.

Very good idea SL, but we don't want to force anyone to register here for posting. As you said we are also trying to find out ways how we can help our Guest posters to locate their posts. Our tech team is working on your second suggestion as well relating to the replies of the last posters and we hope we will able to implement it soon.

OG we would request you to be patience as we are still looking for ways to improve the social answer concept. I'm sure once we make it full proof, you will start liking social answer again just as you enjoy our forums. Please bear with us for the time being as we don't want to loose a valuable member like you. Moreover we would request you to send us few thread urls where your posts were edited.

I don't know of any other board where people can post without registering! It is counterproductive....people dont know that an answer is available to them and they probably end up at another board where they have to register....they return to those boards BECAUSE they receive notification. People who do come back and have posted ANONYMOUS generally cannot find their previous posts and end up posting again.

Issues with Social Answers
1. Threads with new posts not bumped to the top.
2. Thread themselves ...answers are out of order. I asked the poster a question, their answer bumped mine question down. To any other reader looking in, this does not give a good impression. They will end up going elsewhere.
3. No merge thread option
4. No change category option
5. No ability to quote
6. Voting system. Get rid of it. These are peoples financial lives, not opinions on the proper method for screwing in a light bulb. I dont appreciate no minds like Sally, Amy, Anna or even Nelly bumping my correct answer to the bottom with their nonsense drivel.

I am spending lots of time there right now because I am underemployed and quite frankly, I need this extra cash badly. I am just barely covering my fixed expenses and the checks from here go to groceries for me and my daughter. Luckily I have 3 interviews over the next 2 days. Once I am back to work, I wont be spending the time here especially if Social Answers becomes the fixed forum. Debts and getting out of debt needs hard facts, not social opinions. And a forum that works.

what makes this forum great is the fact that most of us give info based on earlier threads,or our own experience.sorry but generic threads basically telling people base info,and to either look it up,or contact so and so is lazy.i know some of the answers anna,sally,and sandy are giving are auto answers that they have saved and tweak a bit.i answered 2 pdl questions and personally i won't go back there again.how can someone in a NY PDL stating and i quote "you never mentioned the state you are in"now keep i mind the thread topic was.ny pdl's what can i do?that idioy was voted the best answer.i would reconsider changing over from this to that as i know you and vikas worked hard to make this site what it is.switching from this to what i call the "fools forum"will only hurt what you have built up.as SOAPLADY stated people come here for info and help not discussions with people who have no business discussing the topic at hand.please if you musty keep both do so,but switching to social answers only will not be good.

If you insist on the voting option, perhaps having something more like Yahoo Answers would work? The voting doesn't "move" the order of the answers. It simply has the answer with the most votes added to the top (that answer still shows in the "thread" in the correct order but is duplicated at the top as the "best" answer).

I still don't like the voting option. People need correct answers, not answers they like the best.

i have noticed that trend especially in the student loan forum here.people don't want the truth,or the facts.they want as to post what they want to hear/see.that is not what this forum is about.

Paul...you should see the ones I have deleted recently....student loan justice org people must be bored.

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/Debt-Problems/I-have-a-payday-loan-out-and-defaulted-on-it-Now.html

This is a prime example of social answers....everything is backwards. Anyone trying to learn anything is going to give up.

i feel yaz SOAPLADY.it seems more and more the trend.unfortunately.again that is what sets this forum apart.let's keep it that way.

Thank you all for your valuable suggestions. Since most of you are having issues with the voting system in Social Answer, will it be ok if we remove the voting system from Social Answer so that the order of the posts doesn't get disturbed? In this way, we can prevent others from misusing the voting rights.

Jason

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/Debt-Problems/I-have-a-payday-loan-out-and-defaulted-on-it-Now.html

Look at this thread...no voting was done. It is totally out of posting order.
You read the question, and then have to read from the bottom up!

yep the way the posts are constructed and how replies are posted is backward.btw yes the voting option is ridiculous.

I think that's a good idea, Jason.

Reordering the posts so the oldest shows at the top is a simple fix on most message boards. That should be an easy one to change.

SL..thanks for pointing the post disorder bug.

Mods, we are thinking about your suggestion relating to voting system in social answer. In the mean time I have a question for you all :) Don't you think the voting system helped the OP here in selecting the right answer from the replies posted in the thread. Other knowledgeable Mods/Members who did not post in that thread can also vote so that the right answer always reflects at the top. This will help the OP to decide which answer to take and which to reject.

Removing a feature is no big deal but if we can look at ways to improve the existing settings then we feel it would ultimately help the system in the long run. Say for example we can give our Guest posters an option to enter their email address so that they receive all updated replies. As far as voting feature is concerned, we can restrict the number of voters. i.e give voting rights to those who have crossed a certain number of posts in our community or whom we think will not misuse the voting option.

Waiting to hear your thoughts :)

Jason

Answers should not be a popularity contest. That is why in my opinion is is just plain wrong for this type of forum. Plus voting knocks the whole thread out order. I voted the bad answer negative but since it is below my answer, the context of the thread doesnt make sense.

Look at the big posting forums like http://creditboards.com and http://www.creditinfocenter.com/ I started posting on these forums before I came here. In those forums, I see quality answers without mindless responses we see here. No voting system.

Jason,

I'm not sure why you used that as an example "for" the voting option. The best answer in that thread shows 2nd, which was Soap's answer of "
No...it will NOT affect your score. Creditors to not report until you are 30 days late."

I think this is a perfect example of why the voting system is a bad idea.

We need to have a reputation of giving posters sound advice. Many times, the correct advice/answer is NOT the most popular answer.

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It is just too damn confusing. And quite frankly, a lot of our posters are not that bright. ....some are as dumb as stumps. We need to present simply well worded answers in a clear to read format.

Dear Mods .. We have solved the post order bug in Social Answer. Hope it will work fine now.