Has anybody had recent dealings with Revenue Reporting Services?

I realize you all are busy, but how do they conduct an Asset search? The RRS website says they farm this out to a private investigator and then locate a local attorney to send the information to. HElp?

that is a scare tactic.they would have to have a judgement to do that.a bottomfeeder uses these tactics to scare monbey out of you because they have no legal recourse.i saw that as well.probably for potential pdl clients.didn't see a license so call them a bottomfeeder CA.

Thanks paulmergel. Do you think I should send another DV? They still haven't answered the first one I sent. The person I last spoke with is named Kristal Spencer. I have ignored their e-mailed PIF demand letter.

did you send the DV certified mail return receipt?

Yep.. I haven't gotten my green card back either.

how long ago was it sent?you can go to the USPS website or the branch closest to you and confirm it was signed for.

I sent it about 4 months ago. I'll pull the Certified receipt and look it up on USPS. What would you do if it's been signed for? I never speak to the same person twice. Their excuse is that the paperwork is lost. Is a certified reciept showing who signed for it good enough for court or do I forward them another copy? Thanks for your help. It's nice to have a whole community to back you up when you're down!

that is up to you.they signed for it.the fact that they are still violating the FDCPA is their problem.personally,i would look into your state laws in regards to recording calls.then go to NACA.NET.that will guide you to a consumer lawyer in your state that will sue this bottomfeeder on a contingency basis.that's just me though.

sorry guys, hate to break it to ya, but they are a totally legit company...backed by a law firm and they do follow all rules and regs. trust me. they are trying to help you so i advise you call back because the case can in fact be taken to court otherwise.

Hate to break it to you, but who cares how "totally legit" they are? If they break the law, they should be held accountable. And also, hate to break it to you (ok, I don't hate it at all), but the FDCPA says they *cannot* sue - because that is a collection activity - until they validate the debt, and ignoring the Certified Mail notice is not a way to wiggle out of it. This is NOT the way a REAL "totally legit" company operates.

Actually..... they are breaking no laws. They are in fact legit becauseeeee they work for a law office called southern tier. they do NOT do the suing. they try and help debters to pay off their debt before the legal firm they are connected with takes matters to court. and in fact they do validate the debt...by buying it from collectors after the agency has had no luck. If you knew what you were talking about you would know that rrs does send out certified mail....and once the debter has refused to work with rrs, the law firm willlll take legal action. Maybe next time, know how a company operates beforeeeee you critisize how they run?

Actually..... they are breaking no laws. They are in fact legit becauseeeee they work for a law office called southern tier. they do NOT do the suing. they try and help debters to pay off their debt before the legal firm they are connected with takes matters to court. and in fact they do validate the debt...by buying it from collectors after the agency has had no luck. If you knew what you were talking about you would know that rrs does send out certified mail....and once the debter has refused to work with rrs, the law firm willlll take legal action. Maybe next time, know how a company operates beforeeeee you critisize how they run?

Welllllllll, maybe YOU like to be treated the way this "legit" company is acting in this case, but *I* sure don't - and apparentlyyyyyy the poster doesn't eitherrrrr.

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Its pretty unfortunate that the poster was treated so called "poorly" by someone at RRS. but as she stated, thankfully, this person was fired. Most other experiences I have heard of have had nothing but polite and respectful encounters with these people. I am sorry if it seems i am trying to justify what happened to the poster, because that is not at all it. I am simply trying to let people know what I know for fact about this company, and that is that RRS does in fact try to help the people they are calling , and it is best to at least hear them out and find out what they can do for you before the case is taken to court. As she stated, it is a toll free number, and you will get someone new each time you call in unless you have an ext... so if someone is giving you a hard time, call back in and let that new answerer know that you are trying to work with them, but the last person you called was giving you a hard time. They will be more than happy to get to the bottom of the situation and help you in any way possible.

Excellent, thanks for the clarification.

Thanks for the back up guys. RRS has still not recognized the DV. I just faxed another one. I just got a phone call from this company telling me that I was a scam and this matter would be forwarded out to the county court today. The lady was obnoxiously rude. I don't know who Southern Tier is but the pay day loan I defaulted on is considered an illegal internet one. I don't mind paying the original amount I borrowed but I don't know who owns what at this point.

i would either ignore them,or got to NACA.NET,and find a consumer attorney in your area.time to take action against this place for the FDCPA violations.

that is called a plant RRS.they spread half truths and misinformation.thanks to this site their ill profits have shrunk.that is why they post stuff like that.

Hello my name is Jason Rushlow and my direct extension is 305. I was alerted to this site by a debtor I was speaking with today and would like to clear some things up. I am going to go down the list of posting and let you know the facts so you are aware of what it correct and what is incorrect.

[COLOR=black]07-30-2009, 05:54 AM Anonymous Guest ??? To start out with all cases are sent a letter when they are first opened with our office. Your address may have been incorrect and thus you didn???t receive your original PIF due letter which gives you 30 days to respond. The only reason we email a letter is when you requested one and it would have been the original letter send out (29 day? Earlier) so the letter stated the date the 30 days was up. Thus the tomorrow date. Requested a DV? Im not familiar with this terminology, is that for original documents? Document Verification? You just stated in the same posting that you took out the loan but beside that, original document requests are forward directly to our client who placed the debt with us. They send out the original documents directly to the address you provided us with. We immediately hold the case once this request is made until we get verification from the client they have forwarded to you and provide our office with a copy. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]08-05-2009, 10:23 AM Anonymous Guest???An asset and liability search is done on our cases prior to them being forwarded to our local attorney. We send this work to Private Investigators to find out if you have assets (car, house, bank accounts) and if you have a job (somewhere to garnish your wages). Once we get this report back we provide that information to our local attorneys to move forward on the case.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]08-05-2009, 10:28 AM paulmergel Moderator ??? I really hope that you do not work for this website as you are providing incorrect information to people looking for help. Obviously paying court costs and attorney fees on a case that the debtor is on SSD for the rest of their life is not something any agency is going to waste their time with as a judgment will do no good. The asset and liability search is always a step preformed before sending to a local attorney so that you know how you are going to ber able to cover the cost of the suit and to insure the debt will be paid. I don???t know how you become a ???Moderator??? but you should definitely be striped of that title. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]08-05-2009, 10:51 AM Anonymous Guest ??? If you have not gotten the card back than we did not receive your letter. Please send it to 21 Princeton Place Orchard Park, NY 14127 or fax it to 716-982-1590 and we will forward to our client. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]08-05-2009, 12:11 PM Anonymous Guest ??? If we did receive your request we will get the information to you. Some of our clients have up to 6 months per the contracts they sign to provide that information. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]08-05-2009, 12:20 PM paulmergel Moderator ??? Where do you get off calling my company a bottom feeder. You have no knowledge of our company and clearly don???t know anything about collection law. If a request for original documents came in ???Anonymous??? hasn???t received any calls from our office and she is still waiting on return of those documents. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]09-01-2009, 08:19 PM Unregistered revenue reporting services ??? IDK who wrote this posting but no one at our company has the approval to respond on our behalf but me the Director of Operations. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]09-01-2009, 09:17 PM Chrys Henderson Community Manager ??? No where does it say we ignored any request for documents and we honor all request and forward them as soon as they are received from our client as well as the client forwards them directly to the debtor. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]09-03-2009, 05:15 PM Unregistered Guest ??? This same person posted on another site and the Southern Tier Agency is not a law firm, they are a client of ours. They hire us to get the local attorneys involved. We do try and resolve matters here in house but sometimes going to a local attorney is the final and only option the debtor leaves our office. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]09-03-2009, 10:46 PM Chrys Henderson Community Manager ??? I will gladly work with any debtor personally if they want to resolve any matters. All cases are handled by one account representative and if they are not helping you please contact me directly. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]09-04-2009, 05:30 PM Unregistered Guest ??? You shouldn???t be getting different people every time you call in, all cases are handled by one person at a time, yes they go through different departments as the case escalates to the attorney in the attorney network. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]09-08-2009, 11:05 AM LostGuest Guest ??? I would like to know who you spoke with. Please call me as soon as you get a chance so I can fire the individual. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]09-12-2009, 03:22 PM RRS Sucks Guest ??? Again I have responded to this on the other forum yesterday when I was alerted to it so you can follow his lead and just click the link and see the response on that site. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]09-12-2009, 04:11 PM paulmergel Moderator ??? All the information I am providing is completely true, other poster on here have no affilation with my office. If you would like to call me to discuss your errors in these posting I would gladly speak with you. [/COLOR]

Again if you have any questions or concerns please contact me directly at 888-214-8424 x 305. Thanks, Jason Rushlow.

It is clear that this person defending RRS works for RRS. I worked in collections for over 5 years, and recently have had a run in with RRS. If they are a legit company then why are they continuing to violate the FDCPA with me? They have left messages stating this is a legal matter. That is a clear violation, they are not an attorney they are the bottom feeder collectors like the other gentleman mentioned. Also they have had different people leave multiple messages in one single day, this is also a violation of the FDCPA. Once one persone has left a message no other messages can be left. They called a relative and told them they where calling in reguards to a legal matter. They cannot disclose 3rd party info. I am in the process of filing a complaint. The most important thing to remember is that even if they work for a law office they are not attorneys they cannot threaten you with law suites they are still just sleezy collectors trying to get a commision by any means necessary.

exactly right RRS hater.exactly right.they are a bottomfeeder btw,and should be sued out of existence.

I got a Handwritten note sent to my brothers house. I have never heard of this company, never received an offical letter, a phone call. So I look into it and I see a lot of this is fake, this is real. So I dig deeper and find that the web site looks like a joke. I've seen better created sites from a 13 y.o. Look on the BBB for them, they are not registered. I use the address given on the website. The don't exist in the building. Only number listed is a fax number or the 888 number. Interesting thing I found was the guy who is head of this company has, I'm guessing his father and brothers law firm at the building in the picture on this web site.

And they're Patent and Copyright laywers. So I checked the Bar Associasion Jason is not a laywer in NY and neither are the father/brother. Now I'm guessing that they are related just don't know how. Now the two listed in the building are laywers in CA. I am not giving names here cause I am not giving them any free advertisment. And been this major domain/patent/whatever laywers. Their website is just as bad. Anyways,...For all I found, I say its a scam. But still researching. And this rrs company has only been in business Barely 2 years! So I do suggest do you own research, go to the BBB.com And read your rights as to what they are and are not allowed to do.

Sorr for any spelling errors.

In the words of Dave Ramsey,"These people are scum". If they had legal recourse, they would use it.

how legit can they be when they get unlisted phone numbers & then tell your son all your so called loan? the last time i heard there is a privacy law they have no legal rights to call a clients son & proceed to tell them all about your private info. looking into suing this company for breaking the privacy law.x

i worked at revenue and they do say they will take it to court but that is to scare you but if it comes down to it they will take you to court. i hate the place but they do try to help you

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Dear RRS,
I completely understand there is a need for debt collectors in this world. I understand that running a debt collection business is a rough choice. In this day and age, there are far too many scammers and fraud leeches for people to trust a small and unknown company. Especially when that company harasses people with back to back calls to their work, with a "private number" caller ID signature. And when that debt collector threatens legal action, and contacts relatives with private information, we can only assume that this pityful debt collector is not "legit". It would seem to me, if RRS were actually interested in helping people clear a debt, they wouldn't be trying to hide the number they are calling from. They would be polite and respectful, and maybe even, god forbid, announce that their call is from a debt collector. Scam or not, fraud leech or not, this company is NOT following proper proceedure, and I have already filed a complaint with the FTC to make the point. So maybe, when this so-called collection agency actually learns how to treat the people they are trying so desperately to talk to, they will actually be more than a here-today-gone-tomorrow business. If you don't follow the rules already set forth, then how is it in my benifit to do business with you? If I owe the debt in question, and I begin paying you, how do I know you will properly note this with the credit agencies, or even in your own balance sheets? Seems to me this business has a lot to learn.

I am now dealing with RRS about an unpaid payday loan from 2005. RRS called me and told me I owe $800 and I remember my payday loan was only $200.
I was never mailed a letter telling me I was reported to RRS and that I was sent to collections. RRS never mailed me anything either, not a bill or telling me I was sent to them. I recieved a call from Crystal Spencer and was told if I dont pay that I will be forwarded to an attorney in WI (where I took out the loan when I lived there) and now live in CA. They said its my fault that I moved. She then said that my assets could be frozen (dont really have anything of value except car), wages could be garnished (am on disability for epilepsy), and that my bank account can be froze ( which I dont think is true). I was paying because I was scared that my account would be froze. Then she told me I had to pay $100 each month or the case would be closed and sent to a private investigator.
I called today to tell them that I have no way of payintg this month, I was in hospital and my insurance would cover the meds I was prescribed and had to pay $400 out of pocket. I explained this to the guy who i talked to and just signed annoyingly and told me to leave a message for Crystal Spencer to "handle, I guess" which he said.
I dont know if this whole thing is legit. I was NEVER sent any letter from them, and when asked for one was told that they cant send anything????!!!! Weird.

by law a debt collector can only ask you for your name adress and phone number, they can not threaten you in any way shape or form, if you ask for proof they must MAIL you a letter of proof, if they do not you do not have to pay or answer to them, they must give you a fiscal adress and you can write a decease wrieen letter to them to have no further cantact any way shape or form, if they do... after you know they have had time to recieve letter you can sue them, please make copy and and video if possible of you sending the letter so you can use it in court like i have. hope this helps. oh and its not on my credit reprt so i know its a scam. if its not on your credit report , its not legit.

You are responding to a post that is two years old. :rolleyes:

You are a bit incorrect on some of your points. First off, they can threaten anything they can legally do....they can forward a case to a lawyer. The key thing here is that they have to DO what they threaten...if they say they are suing you, then they have 30 days to do just that. They are not allowed to make empty threats.

Another point is that you can't just 'ask for proof'. You have to send a letter in the mail requesting a validation of the debt. You can challenge what they have listed in the credit report (if anything) and you can demand validation if they call or send you a letter demanding payment. Now, the big debate is what 'proof' do they have to send. The laws don't actually spell this out so you would need to use your good judgement. A statement is validation in so far as providing proof of what you owe..however asking for a signed contract is only if what they say you owe and what the statement says you owe do not match, then they have to prove they have the right to charge interest and/or fees.

Also, if you send a cease & desist letter they CAN contact you one last time, to let you know what they intend to do with the account.

You do not need to video yourself sending the letter. Simply sending any correspondence certified mail return receipt is sufficient proof.