help pay day loans are killing me

is anyone there

Welcome to the Community mboy :D Take a deep breath!! We have been there, and understand where you are coming from. Can you tell us some more about your loans: are they internet,or store front? Also, who they are, what you borrowed and have paid back, and we need what state you are in-no personal info,please. Not asking this to be nosy, but if we have that info, we can direct you in the right direction in getting your debt under control. Feel free to ask question, we will help guide and support you in the process of becoming debt free!..Karen I deleted your duplicate posts for you

ok i live in minnesota i owe cashnet usa 715, cash transfer centers 400, oneclick cash 300, jvc 200, national money store 300, cash taday 250, and two others i have paid back nothing but the interest every two weeks which equals over 900 its taking my whole paycheck

please find your info here http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/paydayloan/explain-pdls-laws.html

mboy, I can tell you off hand that One Click Cash, Cash Transfer Centers, and Cash Today are not licensed/legal.

Minnesota kinda sucks, because they do not have a long arm statute. Residents are allowed to seek loans from where ever they want, and the companies are not required to follow MN laws.

Here's some emails to and from MN Banking Dept:

[quote]From:
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 3:44 PM
To: Financial.Commerce(at)state.mn.us
Subject: Payday loan questions

Hello,

I have a question about internet payday loans. Do these need to be licensed in MN to be legal? Also, how do I calculate the legal amount of interest they can charge me according to MN laws? I see the laws state:

Maximum Finance Rate and Fees: $5.50: $0-$50; 10%+$5: $51-$100; 7% (min. $10) + $5: $101-$250; 6% (min. $17.50) + $5: $251-$350 (After default: 2.75% per month)
Finance Charge for 14-day $100 loan: $15
apr for 14-day $100 loan: 390%

So for a $300 loan how would I calculate the interest? And since no rollovers are allowed and the companies I have loans with have rolled them over countless times, would I be correct in saying that they are breaking the law? I've been told by several of them that they don't have to follow MN laws, even though they solicited me, because they are licensed in the state that they are located in. Is that correct?

I really appreciate any help or direction you could give me!

Thanks!

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From: Terry Meyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:40 AM
To:
Subject: FW: Payday loan questions

First we don????????t license lenders that are domiciled in other states. Minnesota law does not have a long arm statute and allows residents to seek loans wherever they want. Solicitations via the internet or ads do not place the lender in Minnesota, only a physical location would [the exception being residential mortgage lenders].

The way to calculate the APR for a 14 day loan is either using a T-I calculator. A fast check using the example for a $100 14 day loan is;
$15 finance charge divided by the $100 loan [proceeds of the loan, or amount financed] = .15, or 15%
.15 divided by the number of days in the loan, or 14, gives you the daily rate of .0004109589
Multiply that number by 365 [days in the year] = 3.91071428415, or 391.07% APR

Does that help ???????? and in Minnesota rollovers or refinancing is not permitted. Name the MN lender and file a complaint.
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From:
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:45 AM
To: Terry Meyer
Subject: FW: Payday loan questions

Terry,

So to make sure I understand this, a payday loan company located in another state doesn't have to be licensed to lend to MN consumers. But do they have to follow MN laws about rollovers and interest? Or can they follow the laws of the state in which they are located in?

Thanks for you help!

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From: Terry Meyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:58 AM
To:
Subject: RE: FW: Payday loan questions

It is similar to credit cards ???????? I would bet, assuming you are a MN resident, that none of your credit cards are from banks located in MN. The Supreme Court ruled in both 1978 that rates, and 1996 that fees could be imported for credit cards issued by out of state lenders to other states borrowers. Its agency law. The use of the laws of the state in which the lender is licensed is required.

Please explain your interest and the firm you represent.

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From:
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:04 AM
To: Terry Meyer
Subject: RE: FW: Payday loan questions

Terry,

I don't represent any firm. I'm trying to help a friend deal with his payday loan mess. He took 9 out over the internet a few months ago. And now they are calling him, threatening his arrest, calling his boss and telling his boss that he's about to be arrested, and just generally harassing him because he can't pay their fees and asked to set up payment arrangements. Since all the loans are over the internet he is being charged 300% to 999% for these loans. I was just trying to get some more information about the laws governing these kind of loans to see if he had anyway to fight them. The reason I was curious about the specific point of if state law governs out of state pdl's is because where I live, Oregon, they do have a law saying that out of state pdl's much be licensed in OR and follow the laws of OR. I was hoping the same thing applied to MN, because in that case all his pdl's were grossly overcharging him.

Thanks!


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From: Terry Meyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:15 AM
To:
Subject: FW: Payday loan questions

Good luck ???????? we recently received a complaint on a Payday loan from Malta. Each state would have to be contacted for their payday loan law to determine if a violation occurred.[/quote]