904-265-8133 - Has anyone dealt with Allen Lewis and Associates?

Collector X we did contact the creditors and informed them of what had happened, sent them copies of the police report and the FBI report and a letter from the AG office and every one of them said they were fraudulant papers. Explain that one! With the signature of an offical police officer, AG and Detective, you tell me how the paperwork is fraudulant? I'm not missing the point, everyone has a right to their opinion! Let me tell you something. I'm not crying "woe is me". We had $2000.00 stolen out of our checking account and have had trouble bouncing back. Have you ever had this happen? If you ever do, lets see how fast you bounce back, and how well the creditors work with you.

Mom of twins, there you go again. This isn't a competition to see who had the worst luck. I have never had my bank account raided, and I am glad it wasn't me because $2000 would have been the least of my worries! Now, as far as fraudulent papers, I could send you some. I get them all the time from people who think we will never check up on it. I do admit, however, that most agencies will not take the time we do to verify this kind of information. I don't want people to think I am protecting every collector or agency out there, I could never do that. The jokers from Crosby Ellis made sure of that. There are bad apples out there, but overall it is not the picture painted by some of you. I simply defend the general image of collecors and agencies.

BTW- I have never defaulted on an account, ever. I pride myself in that. I have had some seriously hard times (Law School at night while working a dead-end deli job) where it would have been far easier to default on some of my debt. I never did it. I did without to get where I am and now I am reaping the benefits. It isn't a miracle, anyone with a grain of self control could do it.

Now, I am going to get in my Lamborghini and go home to my wife and kids.

Collector X,

You are doing the same thing what annoys you. You are also generalizing all the debtors and attaching the stigma of 'escapist' on them. How could you know that I am not a regular payer?

If I am passing through a tough time, that is completely my fate (and mistakes, sometimes). I have to pay my bills; nobody will do that for me.

I have asked to one of the rep from collection industry in this forum that how would you justify the harassing collection calls to an elderly lady, who is an Alzheimer's patient and lost her everything in Katrina? The collector replied, if she had lost everything then how she was contacted by the collection agent?

Do you train your employees this way?

One more thing, why don't the collection people transfer the call to the supervisor. To avoid a heavy download, lol, or they might miss their day's incentive? Why do people call six times a day when I inform them I have no idea about the person they are looking for? Why they do not want to disclose their address and contact number, just continue asking for money, money, money? Who will answer to these questions...silence?

I give up on Collector X, he seems to have the answer to everything that is written. You have absolutely no compassion for people that have fallen on hard times. Collector X enjoy your Lamborghini, because you never know when your agency will be shut down for their collection tactics.

Point to be noted - That lady, a victim of Katrina was contacted just a couple of days after the disaster.

Mom of twins, you still miss the point. Hard work and determination will get you everything you ever dreamed of, I know this to be true. As far as being shut down for our collection tactics? That will never happen as we do not delve into the behavior you loathe.

Consumer Y, I don't generalize debtors, just the ones who set out with bad intentions. I train my collectors to be helpful and to get the debt resolved, even if resolution means 12 month arrangements. We put a 3 month hold on all accounts in the affected areas of Katrina VOLUNTARILY. We also have a hardship program to help victims of the disaster in paying their debts. We are not predators, we understand life sometimes throws you a curve of massive proportions. I am not without compassion.

Collector X- An attorney with an lambo wouldn't be wasting valuable time engaging consumers on this website. Besides, anyone worth his salt knows a Lambo is just compensating for something else.

LawMan, since you want to sling grade school insults, let me oblige you:

Learn spelling and sentence structure before you confront me, poopie-head.

i was just recently contacted and threatened by this company that because i defaulted on my childs instrument payment that something about theft by conversion would be charged against me,i was told that in the contract that it was a felony in the state of fla. is this true and what can i do?
i did call the better businewss bureau and they said this company was not a member any longer because of complaints of threats of arrest. please someone give me advise thanks

Collector X,

You have said that you are not generalizing debtors. Then how did you come to the conclusion that this forum members are here to generalize collectors? We are also speaking against only those who are bad. If anyone here is trying to use law to get rid of his debts, no one is gonna support him.

Another thing, the way you approached Lawman clearly reflects collectors' attitude. This is how you talk with people. Don't forget you are earning your bread because debtors are there.

I was only their for less than 2 days...I thought I was in a daycare center,they have thier 2 children running wild throughout the collection floor,the owner seemed to be in a drug induced coma,found out later that the owner had been arrested along with his wife at the business in front of all of their employees and the police have been called multiple times, as well as, now a police sub-station has been put in the same building as them. If you don't believe this contact the Jacksonville Sherrif's office.

Moreover, it turns out after having a discussion with someone that worked there for a number of years.. this person states that drugs in the form of cocaine are done frequently and sold frequently on the premesis. THIS I COULDN'T BELIEVE!!

So, as you can see the man has two businesses and one clearly appears more profitable than the other.

Now , as far as , Ellis Crosby... all of his employees came from Allan Lewis and most are convicted felons.

Don't pay these people... take my word...

I'M DONE!!!

So, Former employee, did you quit or get fired? heh heh heh

Collector X GROW UP!

I left on my own accord. Once I realized I was working with a bunch of criminals who bragged about their own felony charges while on the collection floor. These same employees would continue to brag that the owner (collector x) would bail them out, meanwhile alow them to work off bail in the form of payroll deduction.

On top of that , in a short period of two days .. I did in fact witness employees snorting cocaine on the premises when I would confront they justified themselves by stating the owner does coke and it's accepted here, as long as , your collecting enough fee to justify your existence and subsequently justify the habit.

Coming soon real names with real phone numbers .. of these people who have frightened debtors to pay... at this daycare/homeless shelter full of druggies and convicts.

I am not affiliated with Allen Lewis, trust me.

Collector X! You own a lambourghini! Is that true or are you just joshing around? If it is in fact true, then I'm dying to know what kind of accounts you collect on that help you amass such wealth! Aside from student loans, car loans, mortages, and taxes, the only other thing I can think of in the pricey department is plastic surgery! My former manager up north was telling us over lunch of his job in the past collecting from the rich and famous, he wouldn't mention names, but he detailed an account held by a famous actress who didn't pay for her ****-job! What do you think of that?!?

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I am wondering just what collection agency Collector X works for. Yeah maybe he has a lambo, but did he earn it honestly or did he earn it by being rude, heartless and down right rotten to people?

I'm trying to be neutral on this one regarding Collector X. He speaks of commitment to the fdcpa, but not of thoroughly understanding how truly tough some people have it. Collector X sounds like a cut-and-dry black-and-white no-ifs-ands-or-buts businessman who thinks in absolutes. That can be construed as heartless of course. Collection managers are trained to think in absolutes regarding all debtors, so therefore he probably does not hear "hardship" or "lost job" or "someone raided my checkbook", he hears either "agree to the terms" or "refusal to pay". That's how collection managers are. I have one breathing down my neck all day long about meeting my monthly quota, working all my accounts, and all that fun stuff. I hear things from people that are just dreadful, and I feel sick to my stomach as I do as I'm told and continue to push for postdates. I'm currently seeking an avenue (new job) out of collecting payday loans because I am experiencing a crisis of conscience. As far as I believe Collector X is concerned, it's just business.

My agency is in LA. I mostly work high-end real estate paper. Lots of commercial developments, etc. I came on here simply because this agency was getting hammered and I know what they do. Their clients are usually small business owners who get screwed when people default.

Ari- you hit it right on the head.

I see, I can appreciate your situation standing up for the underdog. The small business owners who deserve payment for their services deserve having someone in their corner, or else they lose their business.

Now I understand why collectors are so much rude and ill-mannered. Please see the thread "CROSBY AND ELLIS AND ALLEN LEWIS AND ASSOCIATES" by XX COLLECTOR.

Beware!!
I set up payment plans with this company provided they send me in writing the breakdown of what I owe them. I of course never heard from them again.

This morning Saturday Jan 7th my Mother received a call at 8:00am demanding money from them. She told them I did not live there and had not lived ther for over 20 years and they began harassing her about paying the debt for me and telling her that they were going to put her daughter in jail.

She took their number off the caller ID and my dad called them back. He told them he was going to sue them for harassment of a bill that was not theirs and they hung on him.

I am mailing a cease and desist letter today and my brothers wife who is a DA in Illinois is now going to start looking into them.

Rosine, while you send the cease and desist letter to the company, ask them to give you the debt validation details of the said account. Federal law forces the collection agencies to put the accurate picture of this debt in writing when they made the initial communication. Dispute with them on this account through a certified mail. You will cover your legal grounds in disputing with the company and will be able to defend yourself if the matter is taken to the court. Since it is not your debt, their is nothing to worry even if they take you to the court. Some companies try to scare people in order to recover money from them by any means. I am sad that you are getting the calls from them.

From next time, don't even make any payment agreements unless you have seen the details of the debt in writing. Suppose if you don't owe anything to the company, but since you agree to pay them after seeing the details, they will prove that you are trying to escape from paying the debt. Companies doing fraudulent activities don't need much time to create stories and scam people. Be careful at every step!

So, I've been "dealing" with this company for a while now. They hang up on you if you don't say you'll pay them, they don't listen to the original companies the debts were held by, and they threaten with empty words.

I called the store that claimed I had the debt. They confirmed my payment, and confirmed that they had called TWICE after my complaints to AL&A, and would call a third time today. AL&A are getting people's money even when the debt is paid...so where does the money go? Into their pockets? Who knows?

I've contacted my state's Attorney General's office with proof of their mishandling of accounts.

I've contacted the BBB with the same.

I've also contacted Bud Hibbs' website over this matter.

I have recorded proof of them claiming to be a law office, names of employees, documented attempts to get this claim removed from their office by the company originally filing, and recorded proof of their inability to handle legitimate claims of innocence, even when faced with proof.

Your best bet in dealing with these "bottom-feeders" as Bud calls them, is to beat them at their own game. Call their bluff. Get an attorney, have all the documentation you need, record conversations, save voicemails, get names. Then, when they threaten you, tell them to go for it. If they report a fraudlent claim to your credit report, you can file proof of payment - preferably payment dated before their claim - and take it to your lawyer. If they threaten to arrest you, call your lawyer immediately, play the recorded conversation, and have them contact the local law enforcement immediately. If they're threatening you on something that is paid - and you can get proof (bank records, receipts, signed testimony of the people working at the debted office, etc.) get that all to your lawyer before anything can happen so that person can be well-informed and prepared for your case. You may have enough for a lawsuit.

If we all get together, the company may have enough against them to shut them down - permanently.

They are claiming to be a law office. That in itself is illegal. False representation is a big term for identity theft.

If our lovely collector Mr. X is reading, know that not all the people getting harassed by this company are "half-wits," as you called us earlier. AND, we have paid our debts - it's this company that won't let go without getting the money for themselves. The debts have in some cases been paid to the original company, and that company has documented efforts to get the accounts removed from this office. If they aren't removed, legal action can and will be taken for misrepresentation, fraud, telephone harassment, and maybe if we're lucky, embezzlement for the money received for accounts previously paid.

You wanted us to "chew on that...heh heh heh" Eat your words. Do they taste like crow? I've heard it resembles chicken...

To all legitimate people with issues concerning this office: Please don't let Mr. X and his limited social skills fool you. I'm willing to bet he's Mr. Cameron Poe from AL&A, the person who called me, leaving a message that ended with "good luck." I'ts certainly my lucky day, as I'm finding more and more ammunition to bring this crew of demented liars down. Please call or write to your attorney, Mr. Bud Higgs, your local and the FL Attorney General's offices, the BBB and maybe even your congressmen if they are active in their constituents' rights being violated. The more high-up people that know who to look for, the better. Keep all correspondence, keep all records of calls: names, dates, times, and preferably recordings. They are recording, you can too. Keep all voicemail and answering machine messages as well - people tend to be more brazen when they aren't talking to a live person.

Keep your chins up, you're good people that deserve all the help you can get. Don't let people like Mr. X get you down. Being able to ignore someone is God's greatest gift to us. Just like bullies in school: if you ignore them, they lose their audience and their reason to do what they do.

Hi preacher's wife

Your post gives some encouragement to all of us who are struck with fear. We really need more of your advice on such matters. Can you please do a community sign up and share your opinions with us. This sign up is free here. I am expecting you to join us and show us the light. :D

These people are unreal, my boss referred them as the mafia and i think thats right, they called me and work and i explained i would like to set up payments they said no we are charging you with fraud. Help!!!!!!!

How hard is that?

I folks. I know this is kinda responding to an old issue, but there is some bad information which needs to be addressed.

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I remember Collector X very well. Although my sympathies lie with the forum members here who are giving it all they have to make it in life, I did share many of his points of view, after all, I have been there myself.

Collector X did not strike me as just another disgruntled collector trashing the forum, he struck me as a business man working in defense of other businessmen who need all their receivable accounts collected so they can get by too. I did not see a bad person in Collector X, he had very strong convictions of right and wrong, but his delivery missed the mark in this forum.

I had a very unprofessional experience with them. The call me out of nowhere saying I owe $800+ to some music company for a supposed rental almost 10years ago. Then I asked for something in writing the man refused and said I needed to give him money now. I hung up and had a friend call stating to be my attorney called and left a message on the general line and they never called him back. 2months later the same rude gentleman called me again. I thought it was a fraud call since this supposed "Law Firm" calls on a restricted line.

My mother, who lives in Montana, received a call from William Blair of Allen Lewis & Associates, stating that it was urgent he reach my EX-WIFE, who lives in Indiana, re my ex-stepdaughter. My mother called me in California and gave me his name and number, so I called him. He began by introducing himself as an attorney. He then stated that my ex is in SERIOUS trouble and he needs to contact her immediately! Concerned for my daughter's safety, I inquired as to what this is all about. He said that Federal law forbids him from disclosing any information to me, as we are no longer married, but said that it is VERY SERIOUS!!! I asked him how serious, and he replied, "This is SO SERIOUS, you will likely get custody of your daughter over this!" This concerned me, so I began doing some research. I called back the number I was given and asked the operator what type of office it was. I was told it was a "PROCESSING FIRM". That was all the information she would give me. Having this "PROCESSING FIRM"s name, I was able to pull up the company website and find that they have a history of shaky collection practices. I don't even know how they obtained my parents phone number, as they have recently moved and changed their phone number since the last time I even spoke to my ex. She does not use my last name, so their should be no connection to my parents. The phone calls have stopped for now, but how can I be sure they will not resume??? We have been divorced for many years, and there should be no connection between her debts and me. I was tempted to give Mr. Blair her address and phone number, but after reading about the illegal collection actions and Mr. Blair's missrepresentations of being an attorney and the seriousness of this matter, I am leary about doing so. Any comments or suggestions???

I would not give them any information frustrated, allen lewis are dirt bags. They are not attorney's and they are always threatening people with arrest and taking their kids away which obviously they cannot do. They claimed i owed money on a PDL which I do not and they called my mom and dad, my parents told them they need to talk to me about it not them. They also talked to my wife and tried to scare her also.

I ignored them in the past and filed a complaint with the Florida AG office, they have pretty much left me alone now. Just ignore them.

I would recommend sending them a cease and desist letter so they stop calling you. I dealt with these blowholes last winter and they can be pains in the butt. You can find a sample letter in the DIY sections of the forum. Please send it certified mail with return receipt requested. This way you will have proof that they received the letter. The debt is not yours so you shouldn't be bothered over it. Also file a complaint with the Florida AG and the fdcpa for impersonating a lawyer. That is against the law.

Has anyone received paid in full documentation from them?

A recent dateline showed these collection people and the games they play. It is their life's ambition to ruin the lives of us who do or do not have a debt.
Ironically, they are just a bunch of thugs working in a sloppy sweatshop, and have no attorneys on staff. They even pretend to be cops and have warrants. Soo, you tell them to contact your attorney...here is the name of a friend of mine..Paul Standifer. Tell them to email Paul with acopy of your paperwork at [EMAIL="paulstandiferpc@yahoo.com"]paulstandiferpc@yahoo.com[/EMAIL]
He loves crap like this.
Hope it helps.

A Derick Alexander called me for the second time in two months and said that if i did not pay a debt that they (his company and lawyers) were going to press criminal charges against me and that I was harboring the property. If anything this amount, disputed, is a small claims court case, in which I asked them to file.....called and spoke to a supervisor names Sheryl and once I told her that i was going to file a complaint she said "I'm now going to terminate this call" because i was going to file a complaint.

I have received several calls from them. I told them to mail me validation that I have a debt. Six months later, I have yet to receive anything in the mail from them to validate, but they continue to call and get meaner every time. They are just completely rude, and they think that they can bully you into paying something that may not be yours!