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Date: Wed, 01/10/2007 - 11:17

Submitted by perry968
on Wed, 01/10/2007 - 11:17

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hello all.. in sept 2006 i sent a debt validation letter to central portfolio control asking them to validate a debt to e-payday loans.. they never responded and just yesterday i get something in the mail saying i owe them for a bounced check i swore was resent to the bank.. im not paying them a dime.. im going to make them validate this new debt they claim and the one i asked for validation for in sept.. this is a very shady company if anyone delt with them dont pay them a cent make them validate it.. anyone else on here ever delt with them? what im doing with this company good?


Keep a check on your credit report also. Don't let them hit your file with wrong information and being unable to validate your debt in the first place. If the collector has already reported with the bureaus, dispute the item with the CRA with copies of your letters asking for validation from the company. They will check with them and remove incorrect negative items hit by this CA.


lrhall41

Submitted by PassionHunting on Wed, 01/10/2007 - 13:08

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I have spoken with your company on a day to day basis.
I am aware of the fdcpa laws and know you are in complete violation. I have asked you to not call my number XXX XXX-XXXX and you have not choosen to listen. I have now contacted my attorney Dan Sheifeild about this matter. The profesional manner in which your employess behaved was rude and harrasing. Please understand Kevin Iversen, my ex-husband doea not live at my address and if any further contact is made to my home all calls will be recorded and my opinion will be to fully prosicute your company. Sincerely Cherie Truncer

[color=Red][size=3]Phone number removed for your privacy. This forum is not owned or controlled by Central Portfolio Control and they will not officially address complaints listed here. Please consult your attorney for the proper coarse of action to stop their harassing calls. LCW [/color][/size]


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Thu, 05/03/2007 - 12:37

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so this central people are most likely frauds this company has went as far as sending a leter to a como law firm in min and they are harrasing my wife now i am investigateing them and i have went as far as calling the min police fraud dept. we even called the credit card company and they said my wife dose not exsist in there records. help me out here.


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Mon, 07/30/2007 - 08:27

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I work for Central Portfolio Control as a collector, and the cases i'm reading seem to be a little extreme, I've seen people get fired for the things you guys are describing here. We are a very professional company and we are generally nice unless you are rude to us first. We are legitiment too... if you owe money... F****** pay us! Our company only collects money for a particular client, we do not keep the money - we pay our client first, for example SEARS, or SHOPNBC, and we get a cut (a %) of what you pay us, that's how a collection agency works, so if you say "well i'm not going to pay those a$$holes, you're really not paying SEAR'S debt buyer, which happends to be "resurgent" So basically sears sells your debt to a debt buyer (resurgent) and resurgent tells us to collect the money, so from the money you pay US, sears get a fraction, resurgent gets a fraction, and Central Portfolio Control gets a fraction, you are paying several people (or NOT if you refuse) and we DO post things on your credit report, go ahead and try to re-finance!! So anyways, collecting money is fun, debtors are idiots, it's all a big game... A game that WE usually win because we have CONTROL over your credit report - we can even garnish your wages!! So... happy debting! Keep charging up those credit cards!!


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Tue, 12/04/2007 - 19:58

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If your company would just validate the debts they would get paid. Oh, and you contradicted yourself. If sears -SELLS- the account to a debt buyer, they are out of the payment loop as they wrote the debt off. As a supreme collector I thought you would know that...but then again, they say the average collector is a drop out with higher debt then most he is collecting from.


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 06:11

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Okay, regardless if you pay your debt or not, SEARS gets a small percent of their money because the Debt buyer purchased the debt from Sears (at a much less cost than what is owed), if CPC can collect the money, then the debt buyer gets the money, along with any fees, and CPC gets a good percent of that...


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 11:18

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P.S. We DO validate debts, but we have an OUTSIDE company in NY that prints the letters and stuffs the envelopes... most people just hang up on us and don't even request that we validate the debt, and then when we DO vlidate the debt... they change their phone numbers or move... people that owe money are very evasive and irresponsible!! We're just trying to put food on the table like everybody else, so PAY YOUR BILLS!!


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 11:21

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Wyatt wrote:
Quote:

P.S. We DO validate debts, but we have an OUTSIDE company in NY that prints the letters and stuffs the envelopes... most people just hang up on us and don't even request that we validate the debt, and then when we DO vlidate the debt... they change their phone numbers or move... people that owe money are very evasive and irresponsible!! We're just trying to put food on the table like everybody else, so PAY YOUR BILLS!!



Puh-leeze!!!


lrhall41

Submitted by unclewulf on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 15:59

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Quote from "Shazzers": "What I get from this is, debt collectors aren't very well educated because obviously he or she can't even spell the simplest words. Hey! I know a great tutor!"

Tihs is a bolg no oen karez how u spel!!! Anyways, you all pretty much sound like the average debtors and the first thing you pick up as a collector is that debtors don't LISTEN. On another note, if a collector is saying you owe money, the main way to validate the debt is to look into it yourself, how else would we have your social security number? We're not customer service and we're not a billing agency - if we say you owe money - then PAY! Other wise whatever debt we're calling to collect will remain on your credit report! Good luck buying that next new car! (if you even have the money for a down payment)


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 09:43

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Dude... All I can say is, you talk one hell of a fight. Anybody can be a tough guy from behind a monitor. Watch it, though. You aren't as annonymous as you may think.

And BTW, the main way to validate whether a debt is genuine is to demand validation from the collector who says you owe it. That's federal law.

You have a nice day, now. Preferably somewhere else.


lrhall41

Submitted by unclewulf on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 10:01

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Quote:

Okay, regardless if you pay your debt or not, SEARS gets a small percent of their money because the Debt buyer purchased the debt from Sears (at a much less cost than what is owed), if CPC can collect the money, then the debt buyer gets the money, along with any fees, and CPC gets a good percent of that...

Actually The Original Creditor (to use your example Sears, although hey sold their credit business to Citibank almost 5 years ago) got their money long before you ever came in to the picture, when they sold the debt. Whom ever bought the debt from Sears (to use your example Resurgent) bought the debt for far less than was actually owed ( probably $.20/$1.00 or less, needless to say, a huge profit potential)taking a gamble they would be able to collect all of it. In reality the only people getting paid (or not paid as the case may be)are the bottom feeders like you fighting over the scraps.

It is important to point out that Debt Buyers ARE NOT viewed under the law the same as "Original Creditors" (or to throw around terms the Collections Industry loves to abuse to confuse people. They are not "First Party").

As defined in the FDCPA, (and this has been restated several times in FTC staff opinions on the matter) Debt Buyers are still "Collectors" (again to use THEIR terms "Third Party"). They do not enjoy the same rights and remedies as Original Creditors.

Another important fact to keep in mind when a high pressure, high school drop out collector is trying to scare you with big words and fancy terms, the FDCPA does not recognize or even mention for that fact "First" or "Third party" collections. It ONLY, CLEARLY defines "Original Creditor" and "Collector". Again, a Debt buyer is still a "Collector" as defined under the law.


UPDATE:
Before this bozo tries to come back with some sort of "prove it" statement; here is my source, the FTC itself: http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/letters/arbuckle.htm
Note specifically:

[quote]Section 803(6) of the FDCPA defines the term "debt collector" as "any person who uses any instrumentality of interstate commerce or the mails in any business the principal purpose of which is the collection of any debts, or who regularly collects or attempts to collect, directly or indirectly, debts owed or due or asserted to be owed or due another." In our view, a party that purchases delinquent accounts from the party to which the debts were originally owed and attempts to collect them from the consumer debtors fits clearly within that definition. The party is attempting to collect debts that were "owed or due another" and the fact that title to the accounts is passed to the collector in no way changes that fact.
[/quote]
More FTC staff opinions on various aspects of the FDCPA are available at the FTC website :
http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/letters.shtm


lrhall41

Submitted by LCW on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 15:55

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Well that posted under the wrong blog post, but anyways... I'm actually a college student - not a high school drop out, can't say that for all collectors, but I don't see what you're trying to prove here, I agree with what you're saying and I think you pretty much re-stated what I initially said.


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 18:57

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Wyatt your wrong. These debts are sold in bulk, most with very little "media", or background info. So for a start, your outside company printing forms and stuffing emvelopes would be little more than a joke, easily defeatable in court. Secondly, regarding these purchased debts, only the purchaser would benefit, if someone were to pay them. Sears and others put old debt "portfolios" up for sale in bulk, thats where they get their money.

I'd also follow hokeyman's advice.


lrhall41

Submitted by Law Student on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 21:38

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LCW, I said: "Okay, regardless if you pay your debt or not, SEARS gets a small percent of their money because the Debt buyer purchased the debt from Sears (at a much less cost than what is owed)"
~And you said "Actually The Original Creditor (to use your example Sears, although hey sold their credit business to Citibank almost 5 years ago) got their money long before you ever came in to the picture, when they sold the debt."

All I have to say is... DUH, you act like I didn't know that.

Look, who's the collector here, and who are the debtors? everyone needs to stop acting like they know everything and just pay what you owe without looking for ways to get out of it! Even collectors owe money, shit I'm in collections right now for over 2 grand (mostly because I'm a student right now and most of my money goes towards that and my car and my house... but I'm not going to refuse to pay and cause a fuss because I think the fdcpa laws will get me out of it...

Merry Christmas,

~Wyatt


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 09:40

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At the rate things are going, you and I will both be out of debt before Wyatt gets a clue.

And did ya catch his bit about being a student? Wonder what kind? Middle-school? Check the way he contradicts himself in the first half of that last post. Maybe he oughtta spend less time on here, and more time in class, hmm?


lrhall41

Submitted by unclewulf on Tue, 12/18/2007 - 03:45

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So, your saying. If your student loans got sent to a collection agency, they tacked on interest well past the legal max, plus 80k in fees of their own. Started calling you 70 times per day every day. Threatened to sue you, garnish your wages, take you to jail, get you expelled from college, garnish your wages, tell everyone in the world your a deadbeat... and do unspeakable things to farm animals :shock: you'd just pay your bill and take it?


lrhall41

Submitted by JCEMT on Tue, 12/18/2007 - 06:40

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wyatt wrote...
On another note, if a collector is saying you owe money, the main way to validate the debt is to look into it yourself, how else would we have your social security number
uhmmmm...I'm thinking there are at least about 500 to 1000 people out there who know mine ..and am really not sure about my estimate..probably low.. since my purse was once stolen during the 80's and briefcase again stolen in 2002...the fact that someone knows my social..doesn't mean they know or own JACK!


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Submitted by socksfullofrocks on Sat, 12/22/2007 - 01:19

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heading for the Depends aisle ..in case I have an accident! Seriously though my question is this..

I know that every time I have ever gone to a Dr., dentist, job application,enrolled in school,applied for credit cards, financing, etc ..I have provided my social..

why is it such a big deal if a collection agency has that information?..and people are always saying..don't ever give out your social..don't carry it on you..blah blah blah..but you've been giving it to people all of your life?...

if there was one dishonest person who crossed your path..people all over the world probably have access to this # now...it is very disturbing how easy it is for people to access this info but to me even more disturbing is what happens to many people once someone else starts using another persons' Social...


lrhall41

Submitted by socksfullofrocks on Sun, 12/23/2007 - 00:34

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Bank of America outsources it's customer service to at least one entity called Teletech. If you have a BOA account the non bank employees there have access to your account numbers, name, address, social security number, date of birth, phone number, debit card number (but not the 3 digit security code)


lrhall41

Submitted by JCEMT on Sun, 12/23/2007 - 06:23

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I'm also a debt collector, however some of these statements are wrong... just because you are "third party" doesn't mean in all cases that someone "bought" the debt. I work doing "third party" collection on American Express account and my company doesn't BUY anything. All of this is just always debtors trying to find a way out of the bill. You charged the card, or got the loan and now you blame everyone but yourselves. As Wyatt said we are just trying to put food on the table. And as far as a "high school drop out" goes, please understand most can't get jobs without a High school diploma or GED. And to be successful in this industry is to have an education, I don't know ONE collector that makes good money that is an idiot!


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 17:56

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I have to say I have been disgusted by the way that CPC has been working with me. Not only have they been incredibly rude, but the person I have been talking to has not even answered my simplest questions- can I pay in two parts? He said no, however, the CPC website says that I can, and that they "understand that a payment in full is not always possible." Exactly what IS CPC policy? Also, has anyone noticed that there is NO email address ANYWHERE on the CPC website? Not only can I not get the answers I'm looking for, I also can't talk to a lead supervisor or the company president. They are the most unprofessional company I have ever come in contact with. And why do I have debt? Because a good friend of mine needed a suit for a job interview and I helped him out. Not all debt-owers are "typical."


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Thu, 04/02/2009 - 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I work for Central Portfolio Control as a collector, and the cases i'm reading seem to be a little extreme, I've seen people get fired for the things you guys are describing here. We are a very professional company and we are generally nice unless you are rude to us first. We are legitiment too... if you owe money... F****** pay us! Our company only collects money for a particular client, we do not keep the money - we pay our client first, for example SEARS, or SHOPNBC, and we get a cut (a %) of what you pay us, that's how a collection agency works, so if you say "well i'm not going to pay those a$$holes, you're really not paying SEAR'S debt buyer, which happends to be "resurgent" So basically sears sells your debt to a debt buyer (resurgent) and resurgent tells us to collect the money, so from the money you pay US, sears get a fraction, resurgent gets a fraction, and Central Portfolio Control gets a fraction, you are paying several people (or NOT if you refuse) and we DO post things on your credit report, go ahead and try to re-finance!! So anyways, collecting money is fun, debtors are idiots, it's all a big game... A game that WE usually win because we have CONTROL over your credit report - we can even garnish your wages!! So... happy debting! Keep charging up those credit cards!!


What an a*****e, your a wanna be debt collection. In Texas you can't garnish wages for anything but childsupport and taxes, you stupid idiot, as a debt collector you should know that. Go to college and get a real job instead of hiding behind the telephone making empty threats. Even if companies sue and get a judgment, they can still pay you as they see fit. My sister was sued for $1200 not because she was a deadbeat but because she lost her job and her young son got leukemia and no insurance to cover his medical expenses so she stopped paying her credit card bill. Even with the judgment the judge asked her how much she could pay a month and she said $10.00 so there. Idiot.


Let's keep it clean, OK? - Uncle Wulf


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 22:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous
P.S. We DO validate debts, but we have an OUTSIDE company in NY that prints the letters and stuffs the envelopes... most people just hang up on us and don't even request that we validate the debt, and then when we DO vlidate the debt... they change their phone numbers or move... people that owe money are very evasive and irresponsible!! We're just trying to put food on the table like everybody else, so PAY YOUR BILLS!!



YOu ass probably owe more than the people your harassing. Speaking of food, trying get up off your duff from that tiny little cubicle and grow a vegetable garden and further more why not get a REAL job or go to college. Bill collectors (bottomfeeders) are deadbeats. Stupid ex-cons or shiftless lazy asses that don't have a high school diploma. For me, I pay my bills but if there ever comes a time that I can't pay and get behind, I will never pay a deadbeat collection agency. Your a bunch of pondscum idiots.


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Quote from "Shazzers": "What I get from this is, debt collectors aren't very well educated because obviously he or she can't even spell the simplest words. Hey! I know a great tutor!"
Tihs is a bolg no oen karez how u spel!!! Anyways, you all pretty much sound like the average debtors and the first thing you pick up as a collector is that debtors don't LISTEN. On another note, if a collector is saying you owe money, the main way to validate the debt is to look into it yourself, how else would we have your social security number? We're not customer service and we're not a billing agency - if we say you owe money - then PAY! Other wise whatever debt we're calling to collect will remain on your credit report! Good luck buying that next new car! (if you even have the money for a down payment)



For the stupid idiot above, bad credit does not stop you from getting what you want. I had bad credit but I always paid my car, house, medical bills and living expenses first. Then I paid on 2 credit cards I had. They raised my interest from 9% to 26 percent and I refused to pay, and on the last 2 cars I purchased, the financing company simply looked at my previous record for paying for my last 4 cars and it was excellent so I can go in a buy a new car whenever I want with a good interest rate. You may think you hold all the cards but you don't, maybe your intelligence or a lack thereof is the reason your a pondscum debt collector, doesn't take much thinking to dial a phone and start cussing out someone. And as far as getting what else I want, I always have and always do, at good prices and good interest....


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LCW
Actually The Original Creditor (to use your example Sears, although hey sold their credit business to Citibank almost 5 years ago) got their money long before you ever came in to the picture, when they sold the debt. Whom ever bought the debt from Sears (to use your example Resurgent) bought the debt for far less than was actually owed ( probably $.20/$1.00 or less, needless to say, a huge profit potential)taking a gamble they would be able to collect all of it. In reality the only people getting paid (or not paid as the case may be)are the bottom feeders like you fighting over the scraps.
It is important to point out that Debt Buyers ARE NOT viewed under the law the same as "Original Creditors" (or to throw around terms the Collections Industry loves to abuse to confuse people. They are not "First Party").
As defined in the FDCPA, (and this has been restated several times in FTC staff opinions on the matter) Debt Buyers are still "Collectors" (again to use THEIR terms "Third Party"). They do not enjoy the same rights and remedies as Original Creditors.
Another important fact to keep in mind when a high pressure, high school drop out collector is trying to scare you with big words and fancy terms, the FDCPA does not recognize or even mention for that fact "First" or "Third party" collections. It ONLY, CLEARLY defines "Original Creditor" and "Collector". Again, a Debt buyer is still a "Collector" as defined under the law.
UPDATE:
Before this bozo tries to come back with some sort of "prove it" statement; here is my source, the FTC itself: http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/letters/arbuckle.htm
Note specifically:
More FTC staff opinions on various aspects of the FDCPA are available at the FTC website :
http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/letters.shtm



well put, tricky deadbeat collectors use scare tactics to try to get a dummy to pay them way more than the dummy might owe. they harass and try to intimidate from behind a phone, that just disgust me


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Tue, 10/27/2009 - 23:08

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