Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Troy Niccoll and FBI are doing a wonderful work, I belive that all the information that we have all helped them complie will lead to a conviction of the Stantons. I am NOT trying to win over converts to Charland, but we have lost a lot of money and I hope that there is some way to not only convict the Stanton's - but also recover some of our money. I know that Charland or someone like Charland is not for everyone, like I said before, we are just considering our options and sharing information on this posting. My sincerest wish is that everyone that has been hurt by the Stanton's be awarded some compensation, by conviction or monetarily.

I gave up hope on my money a long time ago and am moving on. I look forward to a conviction!

Exactly! Mommontoya is right... if there is any money to be had the FBI will get this for us. I would not go throw money after lost money. That's just my opinion as I know for a fact this is the case already for some people.

We have had the same experience. They collected thousands of dollars, never paid a creditor a dime, and we can't get them to return phone calls, emails, or letters - even from our attorney.

We managed to pay off our own bills, but we want our money back. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Contact the FBI as listed above. It is the only chance we have.

Guess the Stantons finally settled with Charland for $70k.

How do you know this guest? Can you post the link that talks about this?

Google arizona superior court, go to case information, and under civil cases type in Hyla Stanton.

What County?
I'm not finding it.....can you post a link?

Here u go mommontoya, http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CivilCourtCases/caseSearch.asp

hope u r doing well, best regards!

Am I reading those court cases on the pervious page wrong? Most were dismissed

I don't see anything new?????????????????????hey wait a minute!
If they ???????settled??????? there would not be a case it would be done out of court.
Am I right?

Use this link to see $70,000 settlement:
go to the above link and
double click on civil cases, then case history, and type in miracle management for company name.

and it was settled within the court system. Hope this helps!

Got it that is the Temple/Young case....I thought that was settled along time ago.

Guess they have been fighting it all this time. I know they were trying to get others to join them to make it a class action but no one wanted to pay the lawyer. I don't think Charland was asking for much, just a bit to cover expenses. Oh well, good for them.

It seems to me that he wanted an upfront % of what you had lost.

Does this really matter??? They won't get their money anyways, I know antoher couple who won against the Stantons a while ago, year or two, and still have not received their money. I am sure nothing has changed.

It really doesn't matter.....it looks like the only reason this case is still active and the $$$$ keep going up is because they are not forking over the cash.

Anyone have any info on when or if the FBI has caught up with the lowlives yet?

Looks like the Stanton's won. Stanton's = 1 ... FBI = 0

TO GUEST WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT STANTONS HAVE WON STANTONS-1 FBI-0? IS THERE SOMETHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW IF SO SHARE IT WITH THE FORUM . EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN. IF YOU LOG IN YOU CAN PM US IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IT ON THE FORUM.

Please Guest
Tell us what you know.

im still here and waiting just like everyone else. i havent heard a word from the fbi..if there are any updates can someone please pm me...thanks k

Hi all
Has anyone done a 1099 for the balance that MMG/RMP took from you? I am thinking about doing one this year. I would like to know any information on how to do it, whom to issue it to and if you can include the start up fees. I cannot find a copy of my original contract with them. Please PM me if you can help.
Also can I list for this year?

momontoya, I would suggest getting professional tax advice on the 1099 issue. No offense to anyone, but I don't think the participants in this forum are your best choice for counsel.

IMO, like me, the score-keeper above is has likely realized that too much time has past (statue of limitations), too much work and expense to get a conviction that would likely not result in any jail time anyway. Tough case to prove... criminal behavior vs bad management. Unless someone can show the Stanton's have a hidden stash of cash it might be best to just move on. With that being said, keep a Google eye on their names in the event they start another adventure!

Guest
I properly will get a Tax Attorney to help me with this as I am expecting a large 1099 issued to me for an account that MMR did not settle for me. And by not settling when they should of, it accrued several thousands in interest.

I think your wrong. The participants in this forum and I have learned a great deal from a very painful experience. We found each other on this thread and came together to support each other. Sure we made mistakes?????????????????????..but I take away a lot of knowledge that has helped me manage my own debts. We learn from those that have gone before us.

I know a lot of you saw the 5 Investigates video but one slipped by me - just saw it. In it, the Supt. of Financial Institutions in AZ claims the Stantons have paid everyone back. The link to this video - cannot post it - go to the khpo.com website and enter as a search "Hyla Stanton", the first hit in the search is a file number 9492023. View this one.

Since I HAVE NOT been paid back, I wrote to tell her - it is totally unprofessional for someone in her position to make such a claim.

Anyone else want to write her how much you are owed?

Felecia A. Rotellini, Superintendent
State of Arizona
Department of Financial Institutions
2910 N. 44th Street, Suite 310
Phoenix, AZ 85018

Won't get me paid back - but helps with the blood pressure.

Guest
The problem is that this only applies to those that resided in AZ at the time. I am from the North East so it was of no help to me and many others. Someone can correct me if I????????m wrong.
It's nice to see that other's are still on the look out for anything that can help all of us.

Exactly! I'm from the NE as well and as far as I'm concerned this j-hole and B**** will get what's coming to them?

To Whom it May Concern:
Are you kidding me about the Stanton's??? They are manipulative thieves who thrive upon other people's money. They are being investigated by the FBI in TX, so please duly note. They are far from the innocent victims they portray themselves to be.

They are terrible people, I still do not understand how they sleep at night?

I am very very very disappointed with the job the FBI has done up to now. I sent everything I had to bust these thieves and nothing has been done. I can't believe they have stolen so much of our hard earned money and nothing has come of it with all the evidence we've sent in. I am EXTREMELY aggravated and upset with our uncaring government agencies who let these con artists get away with scams like this.

Just in case you are not aware...The FBI is investigating this matter currently. Here is the contact info: Investigative Case Number: 196E-DL-105187
Agency: Federal Bureau of Investigation
Investigative Case Status: Under Investigation
Contact Person: Norma Gonzalez



Phone # (817) 989-3337

Phone # 1-866-365-4968 tell them you have not been assigned to this case as of yet but YOU ARE A VICTIM AS WELL!

I'm still rooting for the FBI. We'll never see the money but let them take the time to build a good case. Remember it's been less them a year since they started.

They still live in Phoenix AZ Not Texas

Madmom............I'm glad to see your still around

Oh yes I still check this out from time to time.

Is it still possible to file a 1099 for the money that I paid to Miracle Management/AKA the Stantons? If so can someone send me the information?

Sent MMG a 1099 for any amount you want... there isn't anyone there to dispute it and certainly the Stanton's aren't going to step forward to chat about it.

If you're an avid PS3 gamer, then you know the importance of saving your progress for future game play.
Pls, help me!

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I am seeking further information, i.e, progress in the case against the Stantons and the now defunct Risk Management Partners, Ltd. a.k.a. Miracle Management. Is there anything happening out there?

I have recently located 4 possible addresses for Hyla Stanton. I have sent her a copy of this letter. Since it is against the rules to send addresses, I will just record the body of the letter.

Dear Ms. Stanton:

I have written you in the past trying to collect the ________ you failed to return to me when you shut down Risk Management Partners, Ltd. This is once again an attempt to collect those funds. The total amount owed to me at this time including fees, interest 17% per annum, research fees, postage and late fees is ___________. I expect payment for these funds within 30 days.

There can be no justification for what you and your associates have done to me and to all other customers you serviced. It was wrong not to refund all parties. The money was not yours to spend. It was sent for the purpose of reducing our debt. I don????????t know how you sleep at nights because I lose sleep every night over this and have for the last two years.



Sincerely,
I have also located an e-mail address for her and sent her a copy of the letter as well.

Won't do any good, more than likely, but a least it feels like I doing something.

She was out of the office until Tomorrow. 4/21/2008

Goterman
I wish you would sign in as a memeber so we could PM

I am trying to sign in but my password will not work. Requested reset and haven't heard back. Would love to share some information such as addresses but do not want to violate any rules. Please note most of us do follow rules.

You can share as a guest.If you are having problems with your sign in you can pm Vikas and he will be glad to help.

Out of the office? Have the Stanton's started another debt management company?

Gonterman, You can contact Troy Niccoll with the FBI... Agent Decker is no longer handling the case, you need to get a hold of Troy Nicoll out of TX, his # is 972-559-5362, Please call him and give him your info, I have been in touch with him and he is working on this case.... supposedly. Everyone who has concerns should call this Agent... I spoke with him about 2 months ago.

The Dallas FBI is still investigating them. You should get ahold of them and see who is on the case now.