Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

I just emailed Jon Baird at KPHO telling him the following:

Jon, in reading the forum dedicated to the above topic, Jerry Havis posted that you would be running at story on Friday, July 7th.

I don't know if this information will help at all but I never had MMG/RMP deduct money from my bank account, I always mailed a check to them. On all of the cancelled checks they deposited the money into a Bank of America account #004964817526. This is still a valid and open account with Bank of America under the name Risk Management Partners, but was opened in NV not AZ.

Any faxes I sent to them were sent to an 800 number which I'm sure doesn't help.

Are these people completely out of business or what? Their web page doesn't pull up any more and the phone number says all circuts are busy. Anyone know where they are. I have a family member who has been ripped off by this company obviously. They set people up with promises, take their money and then do nothing. Pretty pathetic

Before the on-line access, I actually used to receive statement from MMG with their address on it, would that help? It has amount taken out of my checking account , how much was paid and how much was in the trust account.

Case Information:Case Number CV2002-022483 Judge Campbell
Case Type Civil
File Date 11/19/2002 Location Downtown
Party Information
Party Name Rel **** Attorney
Chris Stanton Plaintiff Male MICHAEL GERITY
Hyla Stanton Plaintiff Female MICHAEL GERITY
Jennifer Finnegan Defendant Female LEONCE RICHARD
Patrick Finnegan Defendant Male LEONCE RICHARD

Judgments:
Date F)or/(A)gainst Amount Frequency Type
11/21/2003 F: Jennifer Finnegan
$14,720.00 One Time
A: Chris Stanton

[color=Red]****Adult term removed - Jason[/color]

Ok Folks,
What is the next plan of attack?
I've done all the contacting, wrote all the letters, even faxed what I had for my refund notice a couple of times to Hyla with no response??
I'm ready to submit again to the FTC on Monday
Where do we go from here??
Mary from Mass

RMP is sooo busted. Has anyone seen how many complaints are on the ripoffreport site? This is sickening, but I'm sure most of these people have also run across this wonderful message board in their search for the Stantons and RMP. If we all file complaints with the FTC I'm sure someone will hear us and finally do something about this.

Guest,
Please send what you have to Jon Baird at KPHO. All proof that we can send to him will help i'm sure.

I had only a few months to pay off $25,000 in credit card debts. RMP collected from me for 3 years - over $12,000, and settled one small account. I now have legal papers being delivered by the police dept! Please tell me who to contact concerning this.

Does anyone happen to know if and what time Channel 5 will be running a story on them tomorrow?

Everyone write to the FTC on Monday. If you really want to make an impact EVERYONE must submit a complaint on their website. I also will write them a letter addressed to Ms. Majoras office and I will cut an paste my complaint into the FBI's website as well. I hope more people join me in contacting these bureaus ON Monday.

Again, try not to make complaints too emotional.... only state facts and try to keep it short and to the point. This will be most effective in getting our complaints read.

Im in for filing on Monday...

All, In addition to anything online you submit, you must submit a fraud report by mail. It's in the fine print. All agencies including the FTC file the complaint but can take no action without all the evidence to back it up. Definitely email the FTC on monday but immediately mail your fraud reports (not just a letter) but a report. I described exactly how this works in previous postings. Most agencies I've talked to say they have enough complaints, but not enough CONNECTING and valid evidence for each complaint. It takes time but its worth it.

I think if you want to send in paperwork to support the case, you can send in the RMP statement printed from the online website which showed the status of your account. This shows all the monthly payments withdrawn and I am sure that mine looks like yours... this same looking document but with each of our individual withdrawals and debt status should be enough I would think to show consistency in our case. Too much paperwork I think will get confusing and may blur the lines. I will send in the last statement I printed before they shut me out saying my account was on hold which shows the consistency of my payments and the years I was in the program letting them withdraw money. Again, if hundreds of us start sending in huge amounts of paperwork, I doubt our case will be read. This is the government we are dealing with... a one page letter and maybe your RMP account statement is all that should be mailed at this point, in my opinion. If they do an investigation, they will request more paperwork or info if they need it. And if you are like me, which I am sure many of you are, you have already sent in huge amounts of documents.... my letter on Monday will be a follow-up to my previous complaints.

I sent complete copies of my signed contract with MMG/RMP along with the complete instructions I received from MMG/RMP in 2003. I sent copies of the last day I could log on the WEB page on 6-03-2006. showing all my payments.I hylighted several points in the contract and instructions that made me feel I was a victim of consumer fraud. I sent copise of the noterized, certified, singed returned reciept mail canceling my contract requesting my refund from my settlement account. This was alot of paper. It cost $4.95 to mail in a Priority Mail envelope available at the post office,to each agency I have sent so far. Texas,Nevada,Arizona, Att generals, FTC Washington. That is evidence. This is the lie everyone and myself were told. I believe they need everything.
Is there a WEB site for the news station that is doing the story tonight that will have the story on the WEB. I would like to see it in Cincinnati.
I will post when the TV reporter will air the story here here in Cincinnati.

here is the site for the news story on RMP. www (dot) KPHO (dot) com...it has alot of videos but not our story yet! Don't know what time it's running.

Everyone ready for the 10th? We really need to do this. Let's stick to facts and lets try to get the FTC's attention!!!!!

Eventually we will get enough people on here that we will have to be heard.

BTW - where is Skipper?

Score!!!! It's on KPHO NOW!!!
MMG is mentioned by name and the 5-I team investigates!

More info at 10pm...and the plus is that the Atty General Terry Godard knows all about it!

Hey, can anyone in the Az. area tape the news story and maybe send it out to our emails? mine is email address removed as per forum rules - Mike thanks anyone!!!

A much longer story just played on Channel 5 here tonight at 10pm. It showed a fat little topless Chris running like a coward from the Cameras..

Also had interviews and some pretty hefty dollar amounts due to people.

When I have more time...or perhaps someone else who saw it can list some names to contact...but it seems alot of gov people know about them...its just getting them to do something

If you could also please forward and links or copies of the storys that aired tonight to choerlein(at)cinci(dot)rr(dot)com . I would like to foward them to the TV reporter who is working on the story in the Cincinnati,OH Tri State area. I know there has to be more people than myself who was taken by MMG/RMP in my area. There are so many people who are just finding out.

no one has a PM option under their post. What happened? Is their something else i need to do other than just signing in?

I'd love a copy or a link also. I was just at the kpho web site and found nothing.

email address removed as per forum rules - Mike

I think this is the first time I've logged onto this wonderful forum and actually cracked somewhat of a smile. I'm so happy we're finally getting a little exposure. Someone is listening to us! Let's not give up everyone. Hang in there ...I think there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

What the H?

The Spammers never sleep.

Remember to write to the FTC tomorrow, July 10th... this is a perfect time right after the press release. Log on to their website as well as send in a copy via mail if you can. Have a good Sunday night all...

:twisted: :evil: I have been with mmgfinance and riskmp for 3 years now. They took me for $7900.00. I will join any and all class action suits.[/quote]

I hope everyone that was taken by these people will fill any and all suits against them. When things are done in good faith and even God is used to entice you into joining. I hope their minds are tormented and they suffer. But, as a Christian, I do forgive them.

I was taken for $3200 in February by Chris through one of his other companies "Chrome Lotus Wheels" If anyone else out there has had an experience with the wheel company please contact me. Did you know that recently Chris has had some VERY expensive cars for sale on ebay under the seller name: crimedoesntpay How ironic is that?

ok i had to file with the ftc tonight as i am going to be at work all day tomorrow and was wondering what is the address i need to send the hard paperwork to? i looked on the website and didnt see it. i will be sending my stuff fedex so i need a physical address. thanks

k

Anyone have any of those pics of Chris and Hyla? They've been pulled from Shutterfly. If so please post them somewhere so we can see em.

Ok just sent in my complaint to ftc, this makes about 6 or 7 but mine is in. Everyone post that you sent it in so we can have an idea of about how many were sent today to the ftc.

Today is the day all... Please write to the FTC and FBI today. I just did. Let's make a huge impact.

My complaint to the FTC is in as well. Come on people, we need to inundate the FTC with this stuff. Take the time to do something as it may help get some much needed attention to this matter.

My complaint is in with the FTC...

my complaint is in as well

my compaint is in.

Antone have a link for the story? I couldn't find anythig on KPHO's website.

If you want a copy of MMG..try calling Channel 5 news

In fact, in addition to the FCC, call Channel 5 KPHO and tell them you too were ripped off. They can be reached at 602.264.1000

Ask to talk to John Bear the reporter or Kent Dana the Anchor.

HERE IS THE REASON!!! Felecia Rotellini of the AZ Dept of Financial Institute said the have paid everything back!!!

PLEASE PLEASE submit a complaint to the FTC today if you have not already. Let us know when you do so we can keep track of how many complaints were made today.

i filed sunday evening...but now i need to send in the hard copies. does anyone have the address where to send it as i need a physical address to send a fedex.

thanks

k

I resent my complaint to the FTC with the offer to supply statments and copies of emails.

I have to look up the address and i will post it.... give me a few b/c I am at work so it may be tonight

Ms. Deborah P. Majoras
Chairmen
Federal Trade Commission
600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20580-0002

thanks for the address. will send out as soon as i can make copies. anything else i can do let me know.

k

Ok just sent in my complaint to ftc,

I just sent in my complaint to the FTC. I will also send one to the FBI.

do i need to send the hard copies to the fbi? im willing to do it but i dont have an address for them either. as soon as the copy machine guy gets here making copies and they will have their pkg tomorrow by 1030.

k

i think tomorrow we should ALL e mail Hyla attorney as well. After ALL he DOES know where she is. It would be nice for him to hear from all of us at once too.