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Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Submitted by on Sat, 07/16/2005 - 07:01
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I was reading concerns from people dealing with the named group above and I am also experiencing the same problems has anyone received legal advice as to what is next?


I have logged in three different times. when I get to the last page I'm not logged in anymore Please don't let this forum fall apart now it is needed very badly.


Submitted by choerlein on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 17:28

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I would love to find that person that got ripped off but chrome lotus wheels on ebay, i live about an hour away from morgantown west virginia. This is the first person that i have seen that is from my state that has a complaint about hyla's companies.i you happen to see this please pm me, i would love to talk to you about the scamming that they have and are doing.


Submitted by MadMom on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 18:08

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Choerlein, my next door neighbor's son works for a local tv station but i don't know of anyone else in my state other than the person that complained about ebay, if you want i will give you his name and the tv station he works for and maybe your reporter and him can talk and broadcast from both stations. Pm me if you do.


Submitted by MadMom on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 18:12

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First off..the Stanton's Atty is a moron. He actually believes that Chris and Hyla aren't going to be held accountable? HAHA...Hey ever heard of Enron? Remember Ken Lay having to sell everything he had? Remember he is going to jail?

Actually if you look at Maricopa.gov and check out the Stantons and all the lawsuits they have been involved in...weather they are a defendant or plantiff...the Stantons and their Atty LOST! 100% failure rate here! The Stantons are losers in the courts and losers in life


Submitted by on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 19:00

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wow.
someone from this forum recently emailed me about things happening with this mmg situation. i hadn't been thinking about it for a while because i moved back to the east coast and have been trying to move on with my life. i also figured that i was really lucky to get most of my money back and had no right to complain anymore, even though hyla promised to pay me the $855 retainter/setup fee by the first week of november. i knew i'd never see that money...but, like i said, i felt lucky that i got most of my money back and felt sorry for those who are still waiting for thousands of their dollars.
i'm back because it's important for us to stick together. we were all victimized and we're only stronger with more support. maybe one day i'll see the rest of my money, but the most important thing is justice.
the stantons need to face what they deserve.


Submitted by on Thu, 06/29/2006 - 20:35

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go to google, type in irs form 1099, and fill it out eith how much you gave them, send a copy to the Stantons and send a copy to the IRS, then your state and to Arizona


Submitted by on Fri, 06/30/2006 - 18:16

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You can file it in 2006, 2005 or any year you like, if its earlier, they have to pay interest on back unreported taxes
They can deny your claim, but you should have your docuentation that you paid MMG, and as they were MMG they have the responsibility to prove that their fiduciary responsibility did not include the trust account that they set up for you wasnt liquidated. And if its still in place they have to repay you.


Submitted by on Sat, 07/01/2006 - 06:12

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Yes as guest says, they have a fiduciary responsibility to maintain those trust accounts that were to be set up in your name, if they are in even deeper than they think, that makes civil penalties so much easier to obtain. If you obtain a civil penalty, they can be forced to repay all people for the next 50 years or until repaid on all their incomes.
But keep all your deposit records. Hope they want to start a suit against you for harassment as what they have done will then be in a court of law and they will have to prove that they did not misappropriate the funds. Its an easy way and cheap as they will have to pay for the court costs.


Submitted by on Sat, 07/01/2006 - 06:22

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Now that we have no company representing us what do we do with the accounts that were not paid? Do We Contact THEM????


Submitted by on Sun, 07/02/2006 - 10:48

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I understand anyone being upset with the problems we've been put through. I've asked every agency I wrote to, anyone I've talked to,even a news reporter from my city to read the problems everyone has been put through that are posted at this site. The last few posts may not be very good for anyone.


Submitted by choerlein on Sun, 07/02/2006 - 22:40

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BBB I'll have another Bud Light and say good night. Try to have a better Fourth Of July and forget about the WITCH who has robbed so many. Shes not worth the stress, the pain, not any.


Submitted by choerlein on Sun, 07/02/2006 - 22:48

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Sounds like BBB is Chris hoping to turn the fight inward and make this blog sound like a bunch of rednecks rather than people who lost money.
Hope the monitors cut him off


Submitted by on Mon, 07/03/2006 - 07:11

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Yeah, that was uncalled for by BBB. Everyone, let's just hang in there. We've waited this long without our STOLEN $, so let's try to wait longer. Let's pray that someone or some agency is working on this as we speak. I have a little faith in our judicial system and I pray that justice is served here. There is no way Hyla isn't doing something about this right now. Let's just hope that it's something good for us. Maybe she was ordered to stop doing business by the FTC or something while they continue their investigation? Who knows....let's just try to keep positive thoughts everyone. I hope everyone has a great July 4.


Submitted by BB79 on Mon, 07/03/2006 - 11:03

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Lets keep this on a professional level as this is a business problem. I am out ten thousand dollars so I understand the frustration. However we must all be on the same page with the same goal to have anyone take us seriously. Hyla Stanton is in alot of trouble and my gut feeling is she will not walk away totally free but it will take some time for it all to catch up with her. In the meantime we must write letters and re-complain to agenies everyday. I am not sure but we may be able to claim this loss on our tax form. Contact your local DA. Make everyone aware of what is going on. EVERYONE. Contact EVERY state agency, related or not.


Submitted by on Mon, 07/03/2006 - 12:31

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Same goes for me kristie c. Everyone be safe on the roads and try to enjoy the fourth, i am going on vacation but i will send in another complaint on the 10th, i just sent one in again week before last but i will send it again with everyone on here. Take care everyone


Submitted by on Mon, 07/03/2006 - 14:08

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These two grubs own a business in Phoenix AZ. I bought and paid for a $40,000.00 car on ebay. The car turned out to be a complete wreck, nothing like the pictures posted, blown engine, title did not match vin plate......I am going to the AZ Atty General and sue him for every nickel he has. I will contact OSHA, the wage board because the has employees that he pays under table avoiding workers comp insurance. He sells drugs out of his location in Phoenix, even to Phoenix cops.


Submitted by on Mon, 07/03/2006 - 14:59

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I had recently sent the State of Arizona Attorney General's office a complete copy of My signed contract and all instructions recieved from MMG/RMP in 2003 with several points hylighted for them to see why I believe I was a victim of Consumer Fraud. I received a letter from them today where they were fowarding my complaint to look to see if there were violations of the Consumer Fraud Act. I don't know how many people have done this but it was the first responce of any I have recieved. I've sent several complete copies hopefully something good happens.
On the FTC site they only alow 2000 chareters in your complaint. I cant seem to cut my complaint down enough for an online complaint but I did send Washington DC a complete copy of my contract also.
choerlein(at)cinci(dot)rr(dot)com


Submitted by choerlein on Mon, 07/03/2006 - 16:20

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To my understanding, Hyla is a theif, has a Texas phone number which is not the case as they have not left Phoenix but she claims she has paid off everyone and is not a fraud. What a joke. We all need to get together and put her **** A** and her midget F***ing douch bag what she would call a husband,in jail soon so they can rot in H**L for a very long time. She is spending all of our money on her and Chris,

[color=Red]****Adult term removed - Jason[/color]


Submitted by on Mon, 07/03/2006 - 23:09

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Folks let's stay focused on the task of getting these people. Stick to facts and put the personal attacks aside. Believe me, I feel the same frustration, but a little patience and keeping the complaining going will get something done eventually. Stay focused....and get all your complaints in!!!


Submitted by rmpsux on Tue, 07/04/2006 - 05:49

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it's understandable how much frustration these people has put us all through. Human emotions sometimes is hard to control, especially when your pushed to the limit.

Between all us here (not to mention people who has no t find out about the true MMG/RMP0 and people in e-bay, plus some other MONKEY business they do...NO WONDER THEIR LIVING LIKE MILLIONAIRES.


Submitted by on Tue, 07/04/2006 - 16:53

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Hello everyone. Jon Baird w/ KPHO news in Az. is running the story on Friday July 7th, 2006. He still needs proof that our money was going to any bank in Az. Or the fact that our Faxes or emails were going to Az. If anyone can, please contact him at jon (dot) Baird (at) kpho (dot) com. Any proof will help his story. My bank said I need a court order to find out where my money was going! Sounds like crap to me, but what can I do? So if anyone has a friend in the courts or their bank, try to get the info to him. Tell him I sent you! So make sure you check the internet or news for the story to break on Friday!!!


Submitted by jerryhavis on Tue, 07/04/2006 - 18:36

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On Monday July 10th, everyone must write to the FTC.... I personally will then cut and paste that complaint into the FBI's website, as well as in a letter to Ms. Majoras office at the FTC. I think everyone else should join in and make one huge complaint with me. Log on to the FTC's website, make that complaint! We need to make a huge impact all at once. Also, don't make the complaints to lengthy.... I know we have a lot to say but think about if this was your job to read all these complaints... the long ones will probably not hold your attention. I am going to open up by saying that 'I too am a victim of Risk Management Partners aka Miracle Management Group, fraud companies run by president Hyla Stanton.' Then state what happened, where and what expected resolution would be. Try to keep emotion out of it and state only facts.... this will come off more professional sounding. I will keep reminding you all to act on Monday.


Submitted by on Wed, 07/05/2006 - 05:18

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jerry

If you have the records of the withdrawls that RMP was making from your bank, the actual print out from your bank, there should be some referal numbers associated with it. It might take some work but I know these numbers referance to locations. Ill see if mine can track where they went.


Submitted by mavric on Wed, 07/05/2006 - 05:34

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According to the dockets filed at Maricopa.gov, Hyla was sued by a company called "DHR" in 2005. DHR is a payroll company. While using DHR is perfectly legit and the way alot of companies deal with Payroll, the fact they got sued by them raises eyebrows.

The way a company is supposed to work with DHR is you hire employees, they do the work, DHR issues them the check and takes out all the taxes. You (or Hyla in this case) then pays DHR all that plus a fee for their service.

If I were to speculate here...and I have to as I don't know all the facts there..she must have screwed the payroll company by not paying them what they paid her employees.

So the fact the screw around with payroll and withholding and SS taxes wouldnt surprise me at all


Submitted by on Wed, 07/05/2006 - 10:23

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