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Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Submitted by on Sat, 07/16/2005 - 07:01
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I was reading concerns from people dealing with the named group above and I am also experiencing the same problems has anyone received legal advice as to what is next?


I paid my money to this company and then it change there name to risk management partners, LTD. Now I can not get ahold of anyone. I have 6000 or better in the account. Help


Submitted by on Wed, 06/14/2006 - 12:42

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I called and left a message for Jay and Carol called me back and asked some basic questions and said that Jay would try and call me back within the next 24hrs but since the posting of this they said that they have been overwhelmed with calls so it might be a day or so. So depending on when you called just be patient they will get to calling you back and talking to you. I just hope we can all get in on this together.


Submitted by mavric on Wed, 06/14/2006 - 12:56

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I am very interested in getting invloved with any law suit


Submitted by on Wed, 06/14/2006 - 12:57

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same with Mavric, I just got a call from Goodman's office, asked basic questions, and yes they are very surprised about athe amoutn of people that are calling. Mr. Goodman is looking inot class action law suit for all of us. GOD, I hope he can all help us and end this nightmare.


Submitted by on Wed, 06/14/2006 - 13:05

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I also got the call back from Jay Goodman's office. They have been slamed with calls. This is the first sign of even some hope. I can wait. It sounds like it will take time just for him to collect the basic informatiion they need witch was mostly verifing my contact information. And a Promice to call back when he could.


Submitted by choerlein on Wed, 06/14/2006 - 15:21

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I have also been working with this company for 3 years. They have changed phone numbers, and are now in Nevada somewhere. I have given them over 4000.00 and not one bill has been paid. Their website is gone, they sent me an email and the new email addy doesn't work either.


Submitted by on Wed, 06/14/2006 - 19:15

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What is the new e-mail address they provided you? Please be sure to substitute (at) for the "@" and (dot) for the ".". Thanks


Submitted by discover_580 on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 04:07

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I just emailed Jay Goodman, I will call this morning, hopfully this will help all of us.


Submitted by IL victom on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 07:47

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I was able to speak with Linda Sutherland at Mr. Goodman's office, she returned my call after I had left a message. She said their office had been receiving a lot of calls be they will respond back to all of them. So Hyla since you read this forum hope you know someone is finally going to help us.


Submitted by boyd_dale on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 08:43

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I keep getting that too. But then it comes back saying it failed. I think they realize they are up the stream without a paddle. Well, she called me and left a message for me to call her back.. I did and left her a message and now she has not returned my call. What else is new, right?


Submitted by on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 09:34

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KristieC. - what phone # do you have for Hyla?

Thanks!


Submitted by on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 09:51

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Can someone plese help me. I have been a member of MMG/RMP for almost 3 years now. They have yet to settle any of my accounts and now i don't even have any way to contact them. Any information would be helpful. They have over 17 grand of mine. and now I am being sent to court over some of my accounts


Submitted by on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 14:24

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I to had been with RMP for 3 years and all the sudden lost contact. To my night mare this has been the only place I have been able to find any info. Read the past posts. There are many people here who are going through the same thing. Many trying to get answers. There is power in numbers. Sign up. Read up. Share information. I try to use the PM message but I not successful. My email address in choerlein(at)cinci(dot)rr(dot)com. Per forum rules the emails must be typed out like that. I'd be gald to share what I have found. From others here. PUT RMP or something in the subject line if you send an email so it doesn't appear to be spam.


Submitted by choerlein on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 14:59

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Good afternoon everybody. Discover_580 , please check your PM inbox. Earlier today, I called Jay Goodman`s office. The secretary got my information (address, phone number, etc.). Hopefully we all ,regardless which state we live in, will see the light at the end of the tunnel. Hyla, in the other hand , will see darkness in the slammer.

I am pissed off the Irving,TX location is no longer in existence! HYLA, YOU RIPOFF LOSER!!! Where in Irving are you located at?!? It takes me about 20 minutes to get to the area...Tell us please!!!

Chris and Hyla are SCAM ARTISTS to the eyes of MANY! They`re nothing but CHEATERS in life...will never achieve anything. Our extreme negative views is a mirror of you and Chris. WE WORKED HARD TO GET OURSELVES OUT OF FINANCIAL DEBT WHILE YOU SPENT OUR MONEY IN SOME STUPID HAWAIAN VACATIONS AND OTHER TOYS! MANY OF US FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE OF YOUR IGNORANT NEGLIGENCE!


Submitted by USDagger on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 15:00

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Everyone, please listen, Hyla-b!tch and Chris-d!ck are NOT moving to TX. They are liars, thieves and embezzlers.

After speaking with their ever protective attorney, Mike Gerity this afternoon, I asked him why is it so difficult to get a refund when our money was supposed to be in a settlement account? He said, they don't have the money, which to me is a complete F-up on his part.

Also, a direct quote in an email from the ever protective attorney is:

You just threatened my clients once again to me. You have previously done so in voicemails and e-mails. Your remedy here is to file suit, not to make criminal threats

What do ya'll think of that?!


Submitted by BBB on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 16:22

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ok i just got my email back saying

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due to being unable to connect successfully to the destination mail server.

hyla (at)riskmp(dot)com

what the heck is this about? what kind of company takes our money and now disappears? my question is are they now filing bankruptcy?

k


Submitted by goofy14you on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 17:40

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IL victom, yes hyla does read this. If you look back on some pages you will see her comments. smperfi, you should sign up on this forum so we can pm you. try and contact the phone for the attorney we are trying to have help all of us at (505)989-8117. That is alot of money you have paid them. Also file a complaint with the ftc. I also suggest you read this entire forum so you can see what we've all been through and have done to try and get our money back.


Submitted by swtgal77 on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 19:09

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ng here in Wyoming they have over 4000.00 of my money. They did really well for about two years then went to h**l in a hand basket.


Submitted by on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 21:47

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:( I hope they can do something here in Wyoming to these people. They have over $4000.00 of my money. They did really good the first few years i had them but all of a sudden they stopped. Now they aren't doing anything.


Submitted by on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 21:50

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I have talked with 2 different Attorneys over the last few days. Not Mr Goodman in NM. They both me to Start filing complaints with each States ATTORNEY GENERAL. TEXAS, NEVADA,ARIZONA. If there are any pending suits, or new siuts that come up,or the more complaints recieved the more chance they they are to get involved. Most of them at least have forms you can download and fill out to mail in, if they don't have a form you can fill out on their website.


Submitted by choerlein on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 21:51

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Hello everyone- I am k12techman's wife, of post page 123. I just wanted to take a few minutes and try to get a handle on everything- to make sure I get it right and to help all the newbees who are just realizing what is going on, because only a couple of weeks ago we were newbees.

So basically, RMP/MMG is gone.
They have quit withdrawing money out of accounts as of May 23, as I talked to the third party who was taking the money out for them. I would recommend that anyone who has had money taken out in the last two months to talk to their bank about getting the last payments back.
Now, we are lucky to have some people in the areas that the Stantons are in, so we are getting new numbers and info. Thank you. We absolutely need to band together to conquer this and get our lives back. Please do research, scan headlines and keep us posted.
It looks like the Att mentioned is a good idea to do a CA suit, I have a call and an email in to him. Is there anyone else from Kansas or KCMO area- I do have a friend at the TV there and can try to get the Investigative reporters to do a story, if we have enough willing people to be on camera & tell their stories. I would personally recommend that every victim contact the FTC, the BBB, the Attorney General's in your state AND their states. Write letters to anyone with authority. Getting the word out will help other victims realize what happened, and hopefully help us all get closure on this rough continuation of our lives. We all thought we had a solution to our debt and problems it causes.
This is hard to face and very time consuming. We have been robbed of money, time and emotional wellbeing. Many of us will have credit damaged so bad that we have no future hope of getting our own house or car and meanwhile how do we take care of our families? We are not just suffering the moment, we are suffering the 7 or 10 years of bad credit reports, and that is if we can fix them now.
Ms. Stanton, if you are reading this, please do the right thing. We will not disappear, we will be the squeaky wheels, until we get our money back.
Best of luck to everyone, TG for this site!


Submitted by techmanwife on Fri, 06/16/2006 - 06:38

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I got a call back late yesterday afternoon from the attorney's office. They took my info and I let them know about how nasty she was to me in emails and how she recently called me to offer me money and now is not even calling me back. They are very interested and said that they will let us know what they are putting together once they have everyone's info. Everyone needs to call that attorney to take part in this class action law suit.... the number is listed in an earlier post. I am also going to try and contact those who received most of their money back but not all but are not posting stuff anymore. The more we have, the better chance she is going down.


Submitted by on Fri, 06/16/2006 - 09:30

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I contacted a couple of others who used to post but don't anymore since they got 'most' of their funds back. I had their email addresses and I alerted them to this news of the attorney. They are definitely interested and will also be calling and telling their story. I want to get as many involved as I can. She has screwed with the wrong people, especially me. Yes, I got most of my money back but not all and justice needs to be served. I care most to see that she gets what's coming to her which is why I stay active on this forum despite my resolution of debt.


Submitted by on Fri, 06/16/2006 - 13:46

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Good call KristieC.!!

Hyla doesn't even owe me any money at all..never has and never will....I just hate what she has done to everyone else......justice does need to be served..and from the sounds of it, her time is up soon!


Submitted by on Fri, 06/16/2006 - 20:38

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Civil Court Case Information - Case History

6/13/2006
Superior Cowt dept. home page
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Case Number CV2006-051361Judge Jones
Case Type Civil
File Date 5124/2006 Location Northeast
Party Name Rel Sex Attorney
James Edward Young Plaintiff Male JOHN CHARLAND
Teresa Young Plaintiff Female JOHN CHARLAND
Wanda P Temple Plaintiff Female JOHN CHARLAND
Joseph M Temple Plaintiff Male JOHN CHARLAND
Hyla L Stanton Defendant Female Pro Per
Chris Stanton Defendant Male Pro Per
Miracle Management Group Inc Defendant Pro Per
Risk Management Partners Ltd Defendant Pro Per
Killer Kustoms Inc Defendant Pro Per
Filing Date Description Docket Filing Party
5124/2006 COM - Complaint 5/24/2006 CCN - Cert Arbitration - Not Subject 5/26/2006


There are no calendar events on file


There are no judgments on file


Submitted by choerlein on Sat, 06/17/2006 - 06:45

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I live in SD MMG has 6000.00 of my money and 8000.00 of my daughters. What is our next step. Help e-mail at Please give us so HELP

email address removed as per forum rules - Mike


Submitted by on Sat, 06/17/2006 - 12:03

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I have been scammed by this place also. They have over 7000.00 dollars of my money. I quit paying them, because I got sick of them taking my money and not doing anything. I cant access the website anymore...I live in Wisconsin and I dont have a clue where to begin on how to get my money back!!!!!!! If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated.


Submitted by on Sat, 06/17/2006 - 21:52

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If anyone has any info or help for me..please email me at

email address removed as per forum rules - Mike


Submitted by on Sat, 06/17/2006 - 21:57

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Kristiec, i cannot pm you , your pm and profile doesn't gome up one here , i got most of my money back but i did have to file bankrupcy over mmg/rmp, i called the lawyers number and left a message but missed the call back because i was at work, i will try to call tomorrow on my lunch break to reach him again. It is like they just vanished off the earth all of a sudden but i am sure they are scaired of the nm thing that is happening. And i see even more people are finding this forum and saying that they were taken like all of us by them, i have kept all emails , papers, everything from them that i got before and after cancelling with them. They really messed my life up like a lot of others,


Submitted by MadMom on Sun, 06/18/2006 - 07:05

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Hey , why don't some of you that hyla owes a big amount of money to go after the cars that they are selling on ebay. They sell for big time money. She doesn't owe me as much as a lot of you, one of those nice cars would bring in some big money for you, if i hadn't gotten most of mine i would try to put a lien on her selling one or two of them so see what you can do about taking one of them from her.


Submitted by MadMom on Sun, 06/18/2006 - 08:51

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I have gotten a few emails from some people, and I am glad I am not alone. I was wondering, made copies of my account information, before they shut the website down. I wondered it anyone else did that, and if they think it will help in some way? I have everything, the amount I have in there, all the transactions and dates, and all the settlement offers they "pretended" to do.


Submitted by on Sun, 06/18/2006 - 10:20

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Butler 36. Yes hold onto all that you have with company and make sure you file your complaints with the ftc, bbb, your attorney general office, arizona attorney general office, your senators, everyone that you can think of to file and keep any response that you get from hyla, mmg or anyone that you file a complaint with. This company has taken a lot of us for a great deal of money. Keep fighting for your money back.


Submitted by MadMom on Sun, 06/18/2006 - 10:42

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Everyone, please email Carol Lucero at Jay Goodman's Office with your name, address and phone number so she can add you to the list. Her email is Carol(at)jaygoodman(dot)com

She hopes to have a response out to everyone this week, which she'll email.


Submitted by on Mon, 06/19/2006 - 08:35

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