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Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Submitted by on Sat, 07/16/2005 - 07:01
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I was reading concerns from people dealing with the named group above and I am also experiencing the same problems has anyone received legal advice as to what is next?


Just a note for any of you who are receiving refund checks. DO NOT DEPOSIT THEM into your accounts.
Go to the bank they are written on and ask them to see if the check is good, if so pay the few dollars and cash it. If you deposit the check and it bounces you are out a fee and you have nothing, but if you try to cash it at the bank it is written on and it is insufficient you can always try again.


Submitted by on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 07:40

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Hyla, you read this? Good, you are going to snap. Everyone keep on her until she gives us our money. She is a low life scum who has the brains of a doorknob and VERY ugly to top it off. Let's keep on bugging her until she pays us.


Submitted by on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 11:47

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I am one of the many that just recently found out in March what was going on with MMG. I have since filed with the FTC, BBB of Arizona, Texas and my homestate. I was told they have canceled my account but have yet to see a refund. They told me they had to send out a cancelation letter to be signed, which I assume is just a stalling tactic. I have yet to be able to speak to Hyla but I have called several times and emailed asking for someone to have her call me. Anyway I have approx $4200 in my account there and want every penny back. I have all of my statements and a copy of the page with all the account detail. I am still emailing but can no longer get through on their phone number. Any help to a new number would be great.


Submitted by on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 12:30

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Money 101, if you have read this forum you know by now that this has and is an on going thing, it is a battle all the way to get anything from this company, they almost always hold some of your refund, they did mine and many many otheres. They have caused lots of us to file bankrupcy and pay that big fee also, our credit is gone and we are out some of if not all of our money, call your senators, your attorney general office, eveyone you can think of, fbi, irs, this is a terrible thing that we all have and are going through, i don't think anyone on here got all of their money back but you stop payment at your bank now with mmg and push this like all of us are pushing, the email that i used is hyla at rmp but who knows if it still goes of not, good luck in your months of fighting with these people, if you know anyone else that is still paying into this company let them know to get out nowwwwww,


Submitted by MadMom on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 13:39

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I have received 2 bad checks from them so far. I take them to the bank to cash them but they have insufficient funds to cash them.


Submitted by on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 14:55

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Hyla,

You said in a previous post on this forum that you would return any phone calls or e-mails, well I have emailed you several days and left a message for you and you have not returned either one. I have been waiting for my refund for 9 months and all you can tell me is you will check to see with the Finance Department what is going on with my refund. I would like to have my 7000 dollars now!!!!


Submitted by on Tue, 05/23/2006 - 08:55

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Hyla & Chris, come clean with everyone. For once in your life take full responsiblity for your actions. Stop hiding. Admit you spent the money and lay out an actionable plan to repay your clients. Get some good counsel. If you do, you will feel a huge weight come off your back. You may also quiet down some of the trash talk that is being directed toward you. No offense, but you are both in way over your heads.


Submitted by on Tue, 05/23/2006 - 09:37

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The problem is that Chris and Hyla have no morals. I used to work for them and they lied to us to. I dont think they know the difference between right and wrong. What works best for them is right in their minds and that's about it. I doubt they feel guilty about this.


Submitted by on Tue, 05/23/2006 - 15:33

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I had just sent an email to the chayes(at)kpho.com address and it came back to tell me there is no such address. Can anyone help me out here. I too have also been scammed by mmg in the amount of $1900.00.


Submitted by on Tue, 05/23/2006 - 18:34

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I sent an email to hala(at)riskmp.com requesting an official cancelation form and the email; came back undeliverable. says unkown user what can I do I'm recently new to this. I filed a complaint on lawcash, I have only gotton that far.


Submitted by choerlein on Tue, 05/23/2006 - 21:15

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Who is best to file complaints with next. They MMG has $14,000.00 of my money. Does anyone have a copy of the cancellation form then could send me. It is 1230 AM my time and I'm going to bed. Be back on tomorrow. Please anyone help.


Submitted by choerlein on Tue, 05/23/2006 - 21:28

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this is getting ridiculous, seem like this month alone, more and more people are coming out, that are just finding out about these people, THAT MEANS, they are still in business. How can we stop them? Instead of finding a way to re-pay us, they're continuing to rip off people and getting more and more deeper, EITHER that or they are continuing to steal and get more money and probably move to another country. I am so disgusted by them. Just in this FORUM alone, there's a lot of money involved already, not to mention the people that just gave up and didn't get to find out about his forum OR people that still DOESN'T know.


Submitted by ajta1205 on Tue, 05/23/2006 - 22:39

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Good morning. Hyla...This is a VERY BAD and SHAMEFUL thing you are doing to everybody!! Many are waiting for a DAMN LONG TIME for the refund but you can`t deliver. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU AND THIS BOUNCED CHECKS CRAP ANYWAY?!?

Hey Chris! Is this a way a business is suppose to be? LACKING customer service?? BOUNCED checks?? ANGRY clients?? DISCONNECTED phone number?? A FAILING grade on the Better Business Bureau report?? We all don`t see this type of practice with Washington Mutual, Capital One, Fidelity Investments and numerous financial related companies. CHRIS...why don`t you respond in this forum?

Come on Chris...SAY SOMETHING...COME ON! You`re the so-called man in this involvement. In fact...ACT LIKE ONE AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS CRAPPY MESS YOU GOT ALL OF US INTO!

We don`t want to hear Hyla`s false promises and the obvious -never ending BOUNCED checks. We want to hear Chris talk in this forum!

Come on Chris - Come to OUR ARENA!

The House Of Dagger - We`re waiting.....


Submitted by USDagger on Tue, 05/23/2006 - 23:21

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Is there anyone who can get information on an attorney that would represent us as a whole? We really need to get something going. I am asking around the NY area for a reputable attorney. If I find one I will let you all know. I think a lawsuit would at least get the ball rolling for all of us at the very least. Hyla won't take our calls or answer our emails and we are all owed some money. This is so aggravating!!!!

Skipper - can you PM me the email address of Chris Hayes or whoever it is that did the original news story?

Has anyone tried to email this guy? Did you have success or is there nothing he can do about it?

UGGHHHHHHHHHHH!


Submitted by rmpsux on Wed, 05/24/2006 - 11:11

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Here is a consolidated list of links I found looking through all the posts here. There is some good info here!

Remember to replace the (dot) with a real dot to activate the link and the (at) with @

* are my comments on each link

AZ Goverment Info

azdfi(dot)gov/PR/Miracle_Alert.htm
* article here about MMG

superiorcourt.maricopa(dot)gov/docket/index.asp
* look up lawsuits on the stantons

recorder.maricopa(dot)gov/recdocdata/GetRecDataSelect.asp?key=1&sar=UnOfficial&bid=
* find out stantons mortgage info and other fun facts!

Nevada Corporate Info

esos.state.nv(dot)us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpSearch.aspx
* stantons have 2 corporations here..1 in default



Stanton Personal Info

beerandshots(dot)com/forum/member.php?u=1846
* loser stantons post alot of crap here

feedback.ebay(dot)com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=hylaleah&iid=
* hyla was born to rip people off..check out the negative feedback!

feedback.ebay(dot)com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=chrome_lotus_wheels&iid=
* stantons current ebay acct...once a scam...always a scam

chromelotuswheels(dot)com/
* chris stantons site

synthesismedia(dot)com/ccc/donor_list/donor_list.html
* they donate!


National Shows
*write to all these shows! if theyre bugged enough they will respond!

dateline(at)nbc.com

60m(at)cbsnews.com

48hours(at)cbsnews.com

pbs(dot)org/wgbh/pages/frontline/contact/

abcnews.go(dot)com/Primetime/story?id=131877&page=1


U.S. Goverment Links

tips.fbi.gov/
* sorry poor little hyla...theyre gonna come knockin 1 day soon!

http://www.econsumer.gov
*international

Complain to

http://www.bbb.org


Submitted by on Wed, 05/24/2006 - 15:29

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Cool...looks like the hot links have been properly edited to fit with the rules of the forum here. If anyone has troubles with any of them...post here

Also please feel free to add info as it comes..

Sorry poor little hyla..weep weep..you're goona go to jail soon


Submitted by on Wed, 05/24/2006 - 16:53

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BBB I'm trying to find my PM. after I log in it sats you have no new messages. I clicked and checked. I there some where else I must go to check for PM


Submitted by choerlein on Wed, 05/24/2006 - 17:46

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We need to come as one, enough is enough!, she had ruined our lives, she took over our lives, our beliefs and replaced it with anger, how can all these people hate just one person, I didn't event hink it's possible OR ow can one person tokk so much control over all of us here, plus people that probably doesn't even know. HOW, HOW is that possible!


Submitted by on Wed, 05/24/2006 - 21:24

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Be careful with the MMG cancellation letter - have your attorney review it as you could be giving up certain rights when you sign it. Read your original agreement with MMG - it says that cancellation should be in writing. It does NOT specify that their letter be used to cancel your account. Also, send any correspondence certified-return-receipt-requested so that you have proof of receipt by them. Hyla will still say that she doesn't "have your file" - another stall tactic, but stay after her. I have a sample letter that you could use if you like.


Submitted by skipper on Thu, 05/25/2006 - 05:42

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Hi, I am too a member of MMG/RMP and have been for about 3.5 years. They actually settled 3 of my accounts, one was a really good deal. There is one left to settle and we have been trying to settle it for over a year. I understand what people say when they go to a law firm and then back to the cc company. It is quite frustrating. After reading these I guess it is time to try and get my money back, they have about $2500 dollars of ours. I just want this debt off my head. Creditors are now calling daily, probably because they aren't getting a response from RMP. I see the message from fraud about emailing the attorney general. More information on that please.


Submitted by on Thu, 05/25/2006 - 10:16

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Hyla,

Tomorrow is the day you said I would receive my refund. I hope you have sent it because I am sick and tired of all the lies. If I don't get my money tomorrow like you said I have copies all the pages of ths forum and from the Arizona Department of Banking and from ripoffdotcom and lawcashdot com that I am prepared to give to my lawyer. You have been promising me money for the last 9 months and I want it now. No more games Hyla send me my money and all the other people you told would get their money on the 26th of May.


Submitted by on Thu, 05/25/2006 - 11:01

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It has been over two weeks since I've deposited the "first" 1,000 check into my account (they still owe me about 2500 more!) & it has not yet been returned (thank God!)...I'm due another "installment" payment this Saturday. Will keep all of you informed.


Submitted by on Thu, 05/25/2006 - 13:49

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Hyla,

It is good you read this forum! This is for you! And what do you do all day long other than read this forum? More theft?

You are a fraud. Your life is a sham. You pretend you are classy and smart? You are dumb and ugly married to a troll. Look at where you came from. You will never excape your past and what you have done to all of us out here. You lie, cheat and steal. It will all come around and you will be in jail soon. You will pay the price of stealing. We will all see you will not be free for much longer. We will contact the correct people to see to that.


Submitted by on Thu, 05/25/2006 - 16:17

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Hyla, I know you watched the yesterday, and saw what happened to Kenneth Lay. Just like ENRON, Miracle Management Group/Risk Management Partners and Hyla Stanton will go down. It may take a while but it is going to happern. I can't wait to be watching to the news one day a see you in handcuffs when the authorities come to get you.


Submitted by on Fri, 05/26/2006 - 06:01

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Is Mike Gerity Hyla's attorney? He reads my messages all the time but never responds. Can't we go after him for knowing what is going on but not reporting it? I dunno. I am just thinking out loud.


Submitted by rmpsux on Fri, 05/26/2006 - 06:30

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