Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Thanks USDagger, you are also doing a great job in leading people to the right direction. I am aware of this Miracle Management scam but guess, don't have anything much to add on here. I get updated reading your and everybody's post and come to know how MMP can do such frauds. Anyways, maybe you all will get justice only when you all get combined together and force the authorities to take action.

All the best :D

My guess is the Stanton's are going to continue their operation. If they file bankruptcy MMG / RMP would fall under the court's control and their embezzlement of clients funds would be exposed. At this point, with the Stanton's in so deep, they have nothing to lose. They will likely continue to steal and little and refund a little until court action with a real bite takes hold. Good luck to all.

Today is the day I cancelled with MMG One Year ago and have waited for my refund. As upsetting as that is for me, I will keeping doing whatever I can to get my money back from them wether it takes 2yrs, 3yrs, even 100yrs okay maybe not that long but I will keep do everything I can. So just a word of encouragement to everyone. STAY STRONG and KEEP FILING those complaints it may take time to see your money, but Please don't give up, believe me I felt like giving up many times and have felt sick to my stomach about all of this. But PLEASE Keep writing to your Attorney Generals, BBB, FTC, and your senators. One day justice will come, In the mean time DON'T GIVE UP!!!!

I received a letter from my consumer affairs dept in TN. They had attempted to send RMP in Nevada a letter but it was returned. I am advising them of the TX Address. TO THOSE OF YOU IN TENNESSEE - File w/ the department of Consumer Affairs. 615-741-4737 or 1-800-342-8385.

Craziet98

Thank you for the information:

USDagger, Citykid, MadMom

USdagger - Did you hear from the guy I was telling you about?

i am having the same problems as all of you and just found this forum. i am wondering what i should be doing to help get your and my money back. i live in CA if that matters. please help.

should i write the federal or state(CA) senator? or both? what is the best way to contact them? letter, email, fax?

Poultry,contact you state senator and your federal senator, email them fax them whatever access you have go for it, also file a complaint with the ftc,

thanks, i will get on those senators. i have already filed my complaint with the ftc, bbb and AZ and CA atourney generals. is there anyone else i should be complaining to. i am still enrolled in the mmg but no money is coming from me. should i be getting out of it or will i lose retainer and startup fees.

if mmg goes bancrupt are we not going to be able to get our money. is it time to get a lawyer.

The company I work for is going bankrupt - they will ceize all assets and payout from their.

Good afternoon everybody. I`m at work at this moment. Guest, since you`re supposedly an employee of the company...and you know that this company is going bankrupt, you may as well reveal to us who you are. When is the bankruptcy to become effective?

Later,
The House Of Dagger

By the way, Thank you Poultry for joining us. I`ll need to reach you later through PM. Wait for it.

....AND ....While we are suffering through this agonizing ordeal with RMP, WHO thinks that Seattle Seahawks (pathetic flightless birds) will win the Superbowl?? -Ahem $$$- How about them cow..er...argghh...Steelers!

US Dagger - The previous post was from craziet not an employee - wasn't signed in - sorry

Need additional help. I still need to find how to file with the BBB? when I go to the site it asks to find the company name but I can't find it. How do you do it? Do I file on the National BBB or my local BBB division?

I filed with the AZ, TX & my state Attorney General offices. I printed the AZ State Banking Dept. complaint form to mail to them with copies of everything.

Who else do i need to file complaints with????

Thanks,
saeang

File a report at the dallas bbb web site. A search for "risk management" will turn up RMP

www.dallas.bbb.org/complaintsearch.html

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how do i know if i get a pm. i am still figuring this all out.

that was me asking about the pm. sorry i thought i was logged in. my wife is talking about getting a lawyer. any recomendations or other things i should know about or take into consideration.

Poultry, after you have logged in the forums, your status is shown in the left side of this window at the top (under the company logo). Any private message in your inbox will be shown at the PM Inbox. If you don't have any message it will be shown as - You have no new messages.

Poultry,

If you can afford a lawyer, more power to you... but I would suggest getting an attorney in Texas because that is where they are currently located (you can maybe also try Arizona since that is where they were doing business at and had been found guilty before by the state of Arizona). I spoke with an attorney here in Maryland who told me that most attorneys can not sue outside of their state... lawyers have to be licensed in each state that they want to practice in. My lawyer could not represent me over in Arizona because he was not licensed and it would have been very costly to send him there to do all that.

Hi Poultry;

I would suggest suing in Arizona because that is where the Stantons live. I can help you file the paperwork and serve them. I have also seen former clients sue the Stantons in their home state, serve the Stantons in AZ, and then get their money. The Stantons won't show and will default, you can then put a lien upon their home and possible their bank accounts. I can help you with this if you decide on going that route.

Joining the crowd of unfortuneates who've been ripped off. The Carson City address doesn't seem to do any good either. I tried to send a register letter to them at that address only to have it rejected. They won't return E-mail, phone or mail correspondence. I'm $2k + in the hole

Good morning everybody! I have little time to chat but take note...

To:
Brokeincali
saeang
madmom
schim21
poultry
top hat
Please check your PMs I sent to you all...

To:
Swtgal77
citykid
Craziet98
Please check your email inbox in which I sent to you.

To the "others", check your email inboxes as well.

Thanks...Bye for now.

The House Of Dagger

USDagger...I just sent you a PM. let me know if you got it.

I got used, burned, by this company. I want as many people that can to join me in finding names of people of anyone in IOWA that got burned from this company. I am ready to go ahead with my lawyer and press what ever charges needed to get this company stopped! Including contacting PrimeTime, Cnn and or 20/20 or whatever I can do to get this company stopped in their practices. The best way to resolve this is to group together and go after them with Lawyers!! As many as it takes. I am soooooooooo done with this company.

You can e-mail me if you would like to join froces with me. I need as many people as I can to share their story. I too do not get my e-mails answered, phone calls answered, etc. My advice is don't sign anything with this company. I ahev a lawyer ready in Iowa to take on this issue.

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Carri...You need to consider registering for an account with this website so you can communicate by posting in this forum and PMs...instead of being a guest.

It`s better if YOU join forces with US...We have been in our circle longer and intact...we discuss things to go after RMP. The PROOF is on our past posts. Please read it. WE need people to join US.

Everybody...Please listen up. Let`s be careful not to disclose ANYTHING on the forum if the material is being distributed via Email and PMs. Also, We just DON`T email anyone immediately who is brand new and a guest only...........

Everybody...continue to keep close contact with worriedinaz, me, madmommy and others who have been around for quite a while.

Mr. Saeang, Check your PM. Thanks Mr. Saeang.

The House Of Dagger

Who do I contact? I've been trying to get my money back for almost 6 months. They claimed they never receved my cancellation letter. I said fine mail me another one and they sad they did. I have not received it. I have sent several emails and no reply. And yes the service guy is really rude and demeaning. Since I was them 2 years ago, I've had nothing but one lawsuit after the other. I ended up paying more than I orignally owned. I finally settle the last lawsuit myself and saved way more. I can really use the money that is in my account.

To all newcomers... write to your senator and the FTC. We all have been through the same thing. The Stantons are nothing but liars and thieves. Also, to those who have not read through this forum... do so. You will get lots of advice of who to write to. Read back a few pages where I posted a link to get a form to Revoke your Power of Attorney.... then a few pages back further where someone provides a address for the new location in Texas. Send the revocation letter to this CERTFIED MAIL so you have proof they received it.

Also on pg 12 of this forum, Hyla invites us all to call her directly or email her attorney. Everyone needs to email her attorney. He even posted to email him.

But the truth is, I was told by Craig Raby from the State Banking Dept of Arizona who sued Hyla originally, is that the only people who can help us are private attorneys or the FTC. I was told by my senators office that if you write to them, the FTC has to respond to Senators letters and tell them who is investigating the case and a time line of resolution. We need senators from all over the US to write to the FTC about this.

Fyi,

I have filed a complaint with both the Arizona Governors office as well as the Arizona Attorney General. I have also filed with the Michigan Attorney General. Still no luck in my attempts to reach anyone at RMP via Email, or phone. Does anyone know for sure where i should send a registered letter and actually have it received by RMP?

Does anyone know if there is an attorney in Arizona that would be willing to do a class action suit against RMP. IT looks as though there are enough of us out of staters that have been cheated that it might be worth looking into.

Madmom.....Please check your PM I sent you just now. Sorry about the situation.

slburs, RMP's new address is 5605 N. MacArthur Blvd 10th Floor. Irving, Tx 75038. Send your registered letters to that address. Also continue to file complaints with your Attorney General, and most importantly your Senator, and the FTC. You can also get a copy of MMG's consent order by going to the Arizona Banking Departments website and do a search on Miracle Management. Send it in with your complaint and documents.

I would suggest sending it directly to Hyla Stanton's home address as listed on this post.

This company was found operating without a license. Nothing in the contract is legal, even keeping any fees. These people are unreal!!

Guest, We all have been through it with this company, some have gotten some of their refunds like me but didn't get the retainer fees or the first payment. Unreal is not the word for it.Just read some of our stories and you will see how unreal they are. And still it doesn't stop.

My friend referred me to your web site to discuss issues surrounding RMP???
I;ve been with the company when they were with MMG two years ago. Why did MMG leave them, and are they still licensed to be a credit counseling service??? They ahve alot of my money!! I'm worried since none of my debts have been settled!!

What do I do??

MFK,
They were never licenced. MMG and RMP are the same company. RMP was a mail drop set up to circumvent Arizona laws. Please read the forum from page one.
File a compliant with the FTC and your congressman.

Good Morning everybody!

Madmom, I sent you another PM just now. Please check your PM inbox. Again, sorry about the situation.

To MFK....in your recent posts, it stated,"....issues surrounding RMP??? I;ve been with the company when they were with MMG two years ago. Why did MMG leave them...." TWO YEARS AGO, Miracle Management Group was widely known...NOT Risk Management Partners. How could you have known you were with Risk Management Partners back then...? In other words, when you signed up with the company, you signed up with Miracle Management Group...NOT Risk Management Partners. Can anyone correct/inform me on this time line conflict?

MFK...Why don`t you sign up to join this forum so you can listen in and echange PMs with everybody...including...me...........Don`t delay MFK. We`re waiting...

The House Of Dagger

I have too been taken advantage of by this so called debt negotiation company. I am still waiting for my refund from them. I have contacted the FTC and the Arizona States Attorneys office and the Arizona State Department of Banking and my state senator.

When I joined, they were called Jubilee American Financial (but my contract says Jubilee American Financial/and then Risk Management Partners in smaller type like it was an affiliate). Then, they changed their name their name to Risk Management Partners. If you read their website, at the bottom it said that Miracle Management Group was the marketing side for Risk Management Partners who did the negotiations.

Dale Boyd - I would suggest becoming a member of the forum where the people on the board can contact you.

usdagger, i sent you a pm. i am not sure what i should and shouldnt talk about in the forum.

Guest, that is correct. They are all the same company Jubilee, Risk Management and Miracle Management. They changed there name from Jubilee to Miracle Management quite awhile ago and still used Risk Management as its partner name. But is all one in the same. Check out the Arizona Banking Department website and do a search on the Miracle Management Group you can get a copy of the Consent order about the company. It talks about the process. Also keep filing complaints and send copies of the consent order with it.

Actually, I was informed they changed their name from Jubilee to RMP with MMG being the partner. Their website said that mmg was the marketing side of RMP. And when I received mail, it was from RMP. Either way, they have really done a job confusing the heck out of everyone with all the name changing and the different states.... I am sure that was their intention. Doesn't really matter now because we have all figured it out. Instead of complaining against one company, we will complain against all of them to all the different states they operate out of.

What goes around truly does come back around. We all need to keep calling the FTC and nag the appropriate bureaus until someone steps up and does something.

i called the DA for dallas county and they were no help. they just said that it was a civil matter and to get a lawyer. does anyone know of a lawyer that has been going against mmg. any advice.

Poultry, read this forum and you will see several are suing. Some guy in PA had $16,000 invested and has a personal attorney now, lowermybills.com apparently is suing them since they were sponsored on that site, a payroll type company I heard was suing. Read this forum and get the info you need... I know it's long but if you are new to this you may get valuable info.

At about the same time I joined this site I also joined ripoffreport.com and saw that many other people have similar stories to ours. If more people join it is possible we could get a lawsuit going against jubilee/RMP/MMG or whatever their name is now. I think it may be worth the effort.
Read the following:

FILING A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT & NOTIFYING THE AUTHORITIES
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Folks; apparently someone from the ripoff report has filed a complaint with a class action attorney site. Here is the website: lawcash.com/complaint/84/ risk-management-partners-aka-miracle-management-group-complaint.asp. I suggest everbody file their complaint with this association as it looks like they can help. They are already pursuing american express, which looks like they referred several people to this bogus program. In case the website is deleted for some reason; please go to lawcash.com.

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