Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

The Dallas FBI is still investigating them, you should call them and see who is handling the case now.

debt free from credit cards

Still have not heard back for Agent Troy Nichols. Oh well, all things considered, what else is new. No one cares about us do they. Can't expect miracles, after all it was a Miracle that got us here in the first place.

Gonteman have the Stantons started anothe debt management company.

HAS ANYONE EVERY DONE ANY BUSINESS WITH CHRISTIAN DEBT CONSULTANTS? I HAVE DONE ALOT OF RESEARCH ON DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND I HAVE FOUND THEM TO SOUND THE BEST. I AM ABOUT TO COMMITT TO THIS COMPANY BUT I'M STILL HAVING DOUBTS. ANY ADVICE WILL BE APPRECIATED.

Last year I started a website, masteringmydebt.com, that is intended to provide free debt elimination help. The site was a result of a vendor that wanted to charge me over $10,000 to help me eliminate my debt. Most of you will agree that that such a cost is absurd given that a person is trying to get out of debt. I currently pay a monthly subscription to enable all my visitor to receive over three dozen calculators for free. I try to make up my monthly costs with advertising throughout the site. However, aside from books that are for sale as part of an Amazon affiliation, a visitor can receive everything else for free. Please visit my site and help spread the word to others.
Good luck to all,
Amir Rubin
masteringmydebt.com

I was refering to Agent Nichols being out of the office. If the Stantons were to start another credit management business and we were to get wind of it that would be a great deal of fun for all of us. I do not believe the feds would let that happen. There is such a large amount of evidence of wrongdoing they would have to have new SSN, Federal TIN, names, addresses,etc. to do so. I know Nevada, Texas, Arizona and Arkansas are off limits to them for a fact. In fact the new AG in Arkansas isn't very merciful on deceitful business practices. He has run all the payday lenders out of the state with no mercy. If they want to stay in the stay of Arkansas they have to play by Arkansas rules or perish.

He is now targeting credit management companies and debt relief companies. He is eyeing statewide regulation and strict policies to govern their operation. I hope he will move to the federal level at some point. He really seems to have the interests of the consumers at his heart. I didn't vote for him but know I would without hesitation. I wish he had been in office when this business first started for me although the previous AG had laid most of this groundwork and they have worked together. I think that is because of stories such as mine and others they felt an obligation to do so. This problem of credit is going to get much worse. I hope we can retain leagal champions in office to fight for the average consumer.

I know for a fact that the FBI is still active in their investigation of Chris and Hyla. They should be very concerned. This is not over yet, low lives!!!!!!!!

I sure hope you are right :?

Any news?

Today I received from Geoffrey M. Khotim, attorney for Chris and Hyla Stanton, a Notice of Chapter 7 Bankruptcy Case, Meeting of Creditors, & Deadlines.

Did anybody else get this??

What needs to be done next??

I received one too What can we do now

I never received one of those letters...sure would be nice to have one and show up.

I received Notice today as well from the United States Bankruptcy Court of Arizona. They must have listed all of us. I????????m surprised that they still maintained our records.
There is no way I can be in AZ for the meeting of Creditors!
Can someone with knowledge of Chapter 7 please help us? I????????d like to understand what will happen if it is granted to the Stanton (Debtors). With us, (the victims) being listed as the Creditors. How dare they list me as a creditor!!!!!!!!!

I to received the letter today 7-15-08. Not sure what to do. But I am going to gather everything I had and send it to them. I had forgotten all about this thing with HYLA and then got this today,

I received a notice too! I spoke to Brian Mullen, the Trustee listed on the notice. I'm going to mail him info regarding RMP and the info I sent to the FBI. Go to www.azb.uscourts.gov to file a complaint objecting to the discharge of the debtor (The Stantons). These people CANNOT just file bankruptcy and wash their hands of all of us! At the very least, if we cannot get our $ back, they need to spend time in jail!

If they think the courts will protect them they are crazy! It's either our money back or prison for a long time. They can't even act they didn't mean to rip anyone off! I like in the papers how it says they ave no assets....my ass! They belong in the gutter without a dime!

Thanks for the link BBB
Are you going to send them everything?Is that what Brain Mullen told you to do? I can just see the judge sitting behind a big pile of files unable to see over them. :lol:

Why don't I get email anymore when my threads have new posts?

I sure hope they pay for all that they have done to us all, I am checking out the sight also about this matter, maybe they think we all left but we are still here with the debts they stuck us with.

I got a letter yesterday (7-16-08). In the process of making many phone calls and finding out what can be done.

I have aslo forgotten my login information for this website and tried to get my password emailed to me but I never seem to get it. If a admin reads this would you please let me know how I need to go about getting my info back please?

Mavric
Did you write to Jason or mike?
Their emails are listed in the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of the page

Brian Mullen returned my call a couple days ago and informed me the reason why the letter was sent is because the Stantons when filing for Bankruptcy put us as Creditors asking for money owed.

He mentioned to logon to the AZ website for more information on the case. He also mentioned that there is nothing I need to do at this time and just wait for additional paperwork that should be coming in the mail and do exactly what it says to do.

I indicated to him that we have been in contact with the FBI and the FBI has received information about our issues with the Stantons. I gave him Agent Decker's name but I remember he is no longer handling the case.

Does someone remember the name and phone of the new FBI Agent handling the case?

The agent I have listed now is Troy Nichols and the phone number for the branch he is at is 972-559-5000

Well I made my yearly phone call and got voice mail to Agent Nicholl's. Has anyone heard from him??
MFK Still Waiting

I had to file bacnkruptcy, due to the short comings of this MMG?RMP SCam company, I wonder if that's why I have not Received Noticed from Arizona?? Or what should I do??
MFK

MFK
I would think that the letter should have gone to anyone the Stantons listed as a Creditor. It could be they did not list you, but I believe that you can still file a claim against them.
Thanks for giving the FBI a call........let us know if you hear back.

I have been trying to contact Troy at the FBI since receiving the Stantons bankruptcy letter. I have yet to hear anything back from him. I have also tried contacting the local FBI agency that came and talked with me about a year ago. I have yet to hear anything back from them.

At the very least I would like to know how this could even be remotly possible for them to file this considering their already documented past in the Arizona courts and the on going FBI invistigation.

Haven't heard back from FBI Unit, but I will call again next week. Is there any other agency we should be sending our information too. I still want to see these people serve time for screwing us all.
I also requested a new password from this web site but haven't heard back?? For all the veterans in the group, I'm
Mary Kelly, Quincy, Stanton's screwed me out of 13,260.00. Can't sign in using MFK so I'm using MFK STill Waiting

I wonder if the Stanton's ever heard of this...I know they are not too intelligent. The only intelligence they have is how to screw people over, such a talent!!!

Oh they know everything
They vist this site but have not left a message in a long time.

Karma, that is what I wonder if they have ever heard of this before?? Such is life that they will be experiencing it in the future!!!

I wanted to know if this case is still going on since I never received a refund from MMG for the money I am owed. Can anyone help?

AnnieAlv79
Did you report your case to the FBI? Go back a couple of pages and you can get the name and number of the agent in charge.
Chris and Hyla Stanton have filed a Notice of Chapter 7 Bankruptcy.
I just received a second notice yesterday.

Hi Peter,
My problem is I signed up a few years ago and they never paid my creditors. I got some suits filed because of the MMG group not paying them. I canceled my account with them and requested my money back since they just took it without paying my creditors like they were supposed to. It has been a few years and still I haven't received my money.
Thanks,
Annie

Peter? :shock:
Annie
MMG and their owners Chris and Hyla Stanton stole many peoples money, including mine. Same thing, I paid them???????.they kept the money and did not settle all my accounts. Then they disappeared with the money. They also had some other business that they used to steal peoples money, including ebay.
I know this is a long tread but if you go back a few pages you????????ll see that many of us sent our evidence to the FBI in Feb of 2007. We have had no real feedback from the FBI as of yet.
Now the Stanton????????s are filing Chapter 7 Bankruptcy and claiming us as creditors. In other word, they are claiming not to have the funds to pay us back.

:roll:

Hyla's social security # was missing from the 1st notice, that's the reason for the 2nd notice!

Hey Hyla, we're still here....you're not getting away with it!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Hyla's social security # was missing from the 1st notice, that's the reason for the 2nd notice!

Hey Hyla, we're still here....you're not getting away with it!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

HA,HA,HA,HA,HA
You can run; but you both can't hide!!

I can understand the concern, but don't panic folks.

A bankruptcy won't discharge any debt arising from fraud or defalcation while acting in a fiduciary capacity. 11 U.S.C. ????523(a)(4).

In other words, if you take someone's money by lying to or cheating them, the law won't protect you.

Good luck to you all.

BTW, has it occurred to anyone here that lawyers for the other side may use what's posted here in order to gain a tactical or strategic advantage?

Advantage on people speaking the truth, I doubt it...

CalLawyer
Please explain...are you a lawyer or law student?

I thas beenyears since these people have been in business, I has my debts reconsiled and all my credit cards apid off and now my credit is fine. You all made the mess you are in ...get over it and this was business, they went out ofbusiness asmany peole have in this economy, who charged up your cards you dis

Lawyers are sharks, feeding on thers misfortunes they are the only ones who get paid in a lawsuit.

I have enough experience with law and my studies of the law to know that you are stirring up this community and are subject to litigation if you continue

Why would anyone do business with a company with that goofy name. Let's get real! P.S. Always check out a company with the BBB before you sign up for their services. If they're a lawfirm, check with the State Bar Assoc. in the state they operate to see if they have any complaints. A little homework will save you a lot of aggravation.

At the time, the company had an ok repoir. I am sure people did their homework...lets not just forget about the Stantons and the many innocent people they took money from, they know right from wrong!! They still need to pay for all of the money they stole, many have gone to prison for these same kinds of practices and so should Chris/Hyla!!! What's makes them an exception Samspade?

The Stantons day will come

Looks like Hyla is back on the forum! See above post with all the misspellings and telling people we got ourselves into this mess!!! Whassa matter Hyla, bankruptucy court not your way out??? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha