Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Date: Sat, 07/16/2005 - 07:01
Submitted by on Sat, 07/16/2005 - 07:01
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I was reading concerns from people dealing with the named group above and I am also experiencing the same problems has anyone received legal advice as to what is next?


please --somebody -- pm me with a current address for the Stantons --------- and keep up the good work -- they'll get theirs ----


Submitted by wldhair on Wed, 12/06/2006 - 17:27

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I don't think that is their address. If you google the address it will pull up from the Phoenix Dept. that it belongs to someone else. Maybe friends of theres. Who knows


Submitted by on Thu, 12/07/2006 - 04:41

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You both are going down and I cannot wait to see it. Hyla, you are a fat c**t, druggie and an waste of space which you should find yourself a nice dyke girlfriend in jail. But you are used to language edited - Mike. Chris, You will find a nice boyfriend in jail too. When you both get out, maybe, you will have a lot to talk about. You will get what is coming to you sooner than later.


Submitted by on Thu, 12/07/2006 - 10:58

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Let me rephrase what I just said above. Chris, man ****, and the most stupid man I have ever met, and his who*e, stripper ( ex-stripper and yuck???????.) wife will go down with the feds and the IRS. Hey Hyla, did you know your husband has already cheated on you? That is a fact and I can prove it, with a stripper. (dogs will never change) What do you think he was doing every Friday when he was at the strip bars with your Mercedes G-wagon on those days he went with the boys from work? Eating? No screwing the next best thing that thought he was the one who had money. Seems familiar? That was you. You will see in the end who you are and what he is. You deserve it all. What comes around will go around, three fold and it will happen to these two scum bags that deserve everything that is going to come to them. All of us, please be patient and let the authorities make their move on them. It will happen sooner than later. They are both PURE EVIL. And will pay the price in Hell where they belong and will go.

[color=Red]****Adult term removed - Jason[/color]


Submitted by on Thu, 12/07/2006 - 16:17

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Somebody PM me with a current address ( anyone has it) I'm planning a trip out there in the near future --I'd love to just DROP BY -- and "do lunch" with these two --
I haven't lost nearly as much as some of you --- but its still more than I can just stand by and let them walk away with it (not suggesting you aren't doing all you can -- cuz I know you are )
I got ripped by Chromelotus and being a biker (and a hell of a nice guy) We tend to do things are own way -- and we have a way of dealing with people who steal from us ----
Soooooo if anybody has an address ----- PM it to me please


Submitted by wldhair on Thu, 12/07/2006 - 18:08

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Wow, I took a look on the BBB's site. RMP is listed under four address/links.

The first three have the consumer report:
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record
BBB Definition:
unsatisfactory record - A company has an "unsatisfactory business performance record" with the Bureau is based on the experiences reflected in BBB files. This file condition results when the company has failed to resolve or respond to complaints, repeatedly failed to respond or resolve issues in a timely manner, failed to resolve the underlying issues for a pattern.

But the last one with the Arizona address has no complains againt them thirty six (36) months!


Submitted by citykid on Thu, 12/07/2006 - 20:23

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I have no idea --I'm kinda new at this puter stuff --I don't know how to access the BBB and I'd have no idea if the address they give is current ---I'm trying to find out where they live right now ---


Submitted by on Fri, 12/08/2006 - 16:14

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Risk Management Partners, Ltd.
31509 N 19th Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85085-8003

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The BBB reports on members and non-members. If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report
BBB Definition:report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file. Includes basic business background, BBB membership information, and Bureau complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports may include any known government actions, advertising issues or other information that results from activity conducted by the BBB.
File Open Date: November 2006
TOB Classification: Not Elsewhere Classified
BBB Membership: This company is not a member.

The Bureau develops a report BBB Definition:
report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file. Includes basic business background, BBB membership information, and Bureau complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports may include any known government actions, advertising issues or other information that results from activity conducted by the BBB.
on a firm based on inquiry or complaint activity. The BBB has not received a sufficient volume of requests for information, nor has the Bureau received any complaints on this firm to warrant the development of a report
BBB Definition:
report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file. Includes basic business background, BBB membership information, and Bureau complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports may include any known government actions, advertising issues or other information that results from activity conducted by the BBB.
The information provided, however limited, is presented to assist you in your purchasing decisions or for any other purpose you deem relevant. The BBB suggests you read and understand company promotional materials and contracts and check company references and licensing, where applicable.
Customer Experience
The Bureau processed a total of 0 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period.

Competency Licensing
This company is in an industry that may require licensing, bonding or registration in order to lawfully do business. The Bureau encourages you to check with the appropriate agency to be certain any requirements are currently being met.

Report as of December 8, 2006
Copyright???? 2006 Better Business Bureau????, Inc.


Submitted by on Fri, 12/08/2006 - 21:52

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I think it is them, because if you look at the months in business that they have been open it is the same (36)months on the reports for all the Risk Management Partners. Also, if it is a company other than our rmp than they should really have some type of a phone number listed. Most ligit companies give a phone number for a customer to call.


Submitted by swtgal77 on Sat, 12/09/2006 - 06:46

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I think the reason that it says 0 complaints is that they were also risk management partners ltd. that is what they show no complaints on, check it out. that little ltd makes a difference there. See we knew them as miracle management group,risk management partners, and then they went to risk management partners ltd. it is a game they keep changing their name so it looks like no complaints on the last company. look at some of you documents and you will see risk management partners ltd. i did so check it out.yeah they know how to play the game, it is sickening to say the least.


Submitted by on Sat, 12/09/2006 - 07:02

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Submitted by on Mon, 12/11/2006 - 09:25

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so been a while since Ive last looked here..

As far as I can tell...the following has happened

- Chris & Hyla moved out of their Tempe home to a rental
- Hyla had her Mercedes Repo'd
- Chris lost his business
- Lawsuit against them is still active
- Hyla is doing tricks in Mesa for fivers (my guess)
[color=red]Personal attack edited - Mike[/color](also my guess)
- Lastly ...THE FBI IS ACTUALLY INVESTIGATING THEM!!!! ..WOWOW..yes, if I hear anything Ill keep it off the forums too..but WOWOW


Submitted by on Tue, 12/12/2006 - 11:15

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I can't seem to find a CURRENT address ---I tried calling Chris today-----I got this messege "as per subcribers request, this phone in no longer accepting incoming calls" He's done this before ---I guess he getting tired of me calling ---If anyone hads a KNOWN CURRENT ADDRESS PLEASE----- Please pm me with it


Submitted by on Tue, 12/12/2006 - 16:16

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i've lost track of how many complaints i've filed with various organizations online... and i've yet to receive a response... i haven't even received the letter from the fbi agent...

and now i read that they're setting up shop again? the system is truly messed up! maybe i should go into business as a conman?


Submitted by claudiorivera on Sat, 12/30/2006 - 00:42

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as of a couple days ago -- Chris's cell phone was "OUT OF SERVICE" I know he does this from time to time ---I just keep calling Garrity----- Its been just over a year that I've been INVOLVED witht he Stantons --- what a mess --- But Just in case you read this Chris and Leah --- I NEVER QUIT --- I will get my money one way or another


Submitted by on Thu, 01/04/2007 - 17:10

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Leah?


Submitted by on Thu, 01/04/2007 - 18:09

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All, I have just finished what has been a long hard year and I'd like to make some recommendations for everyone.

First call all your creditors. Tell them you need to change the address and revoke the power of attorney statement sent to them by MMG/RMP. You can do this by sending a notarized revokation letter certified mail (signature required) to them. Guess what--somebody is still signing forwarded mail.
Second, speak to either the collection agency in charge of the account (if it has been charged off) or to the credit card's collection group--and make settlement arrangements. Here's the deal. They will only accept the a settlement agreement for 75-40 cents on the dollar. You have to figure out what you want to offer-they can accept or some will even tell you the number they are willing to take. Then you make three payments and you're done. Some will even stretch out to five payments but that's pushing it.
But most importantly to get them to agree to settle--you have to flash a large amount at them. From 3,000 or 2,000$ for them to agree to this. Yeah it sucks I know. I took out loans on my 401K to do it and borrowed from family to do it. I started in March and as of Dec--I settled on what accrued to 38,000. All my accounts were accruing interest. MMG/RMP never ceased that. So it can be done. Stop worrying about your refund until you can get your accounts in order. As of this week--I have all my settlement agreement papers and can now buy a house. If anyone wants anymore details go ahead and PM me.


Submitted by on Mon, 01/08/2007 - 07:11

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Imagine what their family members think of what they have done to people that were already hurting financially....
Really Chris and Hyla, how low can you go?


Submitted by on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 14:28

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BBB Reliability Report

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Better Business Bureau of Central and Northern Arizona
4428 N. 12th Street
Phoenix, AZ 85014
(602) 264-1721





Risk Management Partners, Ltd.
31509 N 19th Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85085-8003



The BBB reports on members and non-members. If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report
BBB Definition:

report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file. Includes basic business background, BBB membership information, and Bureau complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports may include any known government actions, advertising issues or other information that results from activity conducted by the BBB.


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File Open Date: November 2006
TOB Classification: Not Elsewhere Classified
BBB Membership: This company is not a member.


Customer Experience

Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record
BBB Definition:

unsatisfactory record - A company has an "unsatisfactory business performance record" with the Bureau is based on the experiences reflected in BBB files. This file condition results when the company has failed to resolve or respond to complaints, repeatedly failed to respond or resolve issues in a timely manner, failed to resolve the underlying issues for a pattern
BBB Definition:

pattern - More than 2 complaints involving the same allegations usually within 12 months that are significant in relation to the company's size and volume of business.


of complaints, failed to honor their commitment to mediate or arbitrate disputes or honor mediated agreements or arbitrated decisions, failed to substantiate, modify or discontinue false advertising claims that are challenged by the BBB, or failed to discontinue unauthorized use of the BBB name and logo, a Federally protected trademark.


with the Bureau due to failure to respond to a complaint.

When considering complaint information, please take into account the company's size and volume of transactions, and understand that the nature of complaints and a firm's responses to them are often more important than the number of complaints.

The Bureau processed a total of 2 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 2 complaints closed in 36 months, 2 were closed in the last year.

Service Issues
BBB Definition:

Service Issues - Claims of alleged delay in completing service, failure to provide promised service, inferior quality of provided service, or damaged merchandise as a result of delivery service.



No Response
BBB Definition:

No Response - The company failed to respond to the complaint.



1 - Company failed to respond to the BBB to resolve or address the complaint issues.
Unpursuable
BBB Definition:

Unpursuable - The company cannot be located or is out of business.



1 - Company cannot be located.


Submitted by swtgal77 on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 15:20

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Hello everyone, I was just wondering if you all have sent your letters in yet? It is almost February and nearing the end date. I sent mine in last week. I really hope everyone gets a chance to send in all there info and hopefully have some justice done.. Take care and good luck everyone.. :D


Submitted by swtgal77 on Sat, 01/27/2007 - 08:33

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