Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Ok what is going on? When i just logged in again it showed me as goofy14you. What is going on with this forum? Then it said to login to see if i have any new messages, then i had to put my email address and password in again. Are you under construction on this forum or something?

Hello Mike. Thank you for responding. When I login, I still get the message" You`ve been banned from the forum". I went ahead and disabled (switch to insecure mode) secure tunneling system(netsecure from anonymizer). Just like last night, I was able to get to the forum but unable to access my account. I forgot to include certain information that was on the website when I got to this forum...maybe you know whats going on.

This is what i`m reading when in the forum on insecure mode. Hope this helps...either that or we`re actually overloading the forum. Thanks. I`ll try again tomorrow night.

Username : USDagger

Hello Mike...it`s me again. This time I`m finally in while in secure mode. Last night, I cleaned out cookies, temporary internet folder, temporary files and so forth before logging in...especially before posting (the one above this one)earlier at this time of night. I`ll keep on checking and login to my access tomorrow night and see what happens next. Thanks.

The House Of Dagger

Hi,

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Just like the rest of you, I too was promised my refund on June 1st. Of course I did not receive it. Hyla stated in a post on this forum on May 15th that everyone would be refunded. That was just another lie and stall tactic. I am going to continue to e-mail and call her everyday until she sends me my money. I am also go to contact all the gov't agencies again, FTC,BBB, and the states attorney in Texas.

For those of you who have received checks lately. If it was issued through Bank of America - I went yesterday to cash mine and there account still has no funds available

Ok so I found this site and was shocked. I too canceled now and have gotten banned from the site--luckily I printed everything before it was canceled. I am looking for anyone in MD. I am going to the local police depart to fill out a fraud report. So far this is what I have found. The IP address is for the same location as a UHAUL. That UHAUL has no designated server running under the company. Also the address and phone number listed for RMP dont exist. The police report will be investigated and they will contact the AZ police depart. But I'd like anyone's input if they want to include it. Also ---what's been the most successful way of getting your money back...supposedly they were going to send me a paper to sign and mail back-that was 4 weeks ago.

Hey Hyla Stanton,
Looks like your voicemail is now full again. Avoiding us all together. When I talked to you on the phone a few weeks ago you said you wasn't blowing smoke up my @$$. But guess what looks like you have proved that to be b.s. Looks like I will just have to turn the bad checks in to the authorities after all. $3000.00 in Bad Checks. I guess the money you said you were coming into is being spent otherwise which is not surprising.

Sara B - sign up with the site and then pm me with your email address. I have about 10 pages of info that should prove helpful.

Anyone who has RMP checks that have bounced - look on an earlier post for the link to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department (or do a search for it) and file a complaint with them. The bounced checks will get the Stantons put in jail - where they belong! Also report the bad checks to the FTC (send copies).

Well, my second day air check sent on 5/31 will arrive on 6/5. Ha ha, some second day air. I don't think you can blame this on Risk MP, but this dosen't surprise me in the least.

To the guest who had a check with no funds. I believe (I hope) that the rest will all be cashiers checks. Well, I was told that mine will be.

CityKid - I was told to mine was supposed to be cashiers check. But they weren't. I have seen a few people get cashiers checks though. Hope that yours are.

So has anyone who is owed under $2500.00 filed to go to small claims court? Would I have to appear in Arizona or could it be done by phone?

Citykid - have you hired an attorney or filed suit? I am just trying to figure out why some people get responses and others don't.

This has been terribly frustrating but I will not rest until we all get paid.

Thanks,
Ruben

Check this out.. EVERYONE its something you could use to help your situation while you wait for funds.

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Guest, per the above post, pm me and let me know what the 411 is.

Thanks!

Guest, per the above post, it's been deleted by the site administrator. Please pm me with the 411.

Thanks!

Guest or anyone who has the info from the above post, please pm me. thanks

more and more people are coming out. they have not stopped. they will keep on going until they punished.

i'm loosing hope, HYLA WON AGAIN

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Guest or anyone who has the info from the above post, please pm me also. thanks

Is there anyone else in the Cincinnati Ohio Area who is also in this mess. I trying to find an attorney in this area to go to. I have finally found my original contract with RMP and am looking for professonal legal advise in Cincinnati Ohio. Could you email me at choerlein(at)cinci(dot)rr(dot)com I do not seem to be able to receive PM messages.

guest plz p.m. me also on this 411 thx

All:

I don't know if anyone from RMP still reads this forum. If not, this will be a good chance for me to just let a few things out. If so, then please read this post and try to take it to heart. I'm not sure that you are still reachable on an emotional level, so read it for the logic if you must.

My wife and I began sending you payments in April of 2004. Earlier in life, we'd made some stupid mistakes, made some bad decisions and ended up over our heads. We ended up bankrupt. We went through the painful, embarrasing process of getting our private financial lives made very public. After that, we swore that we'd never get in that position again.

We did well for a few years after that. Then, we had a sincere family crisis that involved the death of twin babies. I was in school at the time and working as well to help make ends meet. My wife, daughter and I were living with her parents, who were very gracious hosts. When our twins were stillborn, it caused us great stress and distress. I quit school to look for full-time work because, while we didn't have new babies at home, we had the medical bills that go along with delivery of babies. It was very, very difficult.

I found work in a facility that attempted to educate and reform adjudicated teen boys. I had been working there for a few months and we had begun to think our new town was going to be our new home. We'd made a cross country move to get to the new work, so we had some moving expenses that never were covered by my new employer. After about 8 months on the job, I came to work one day and before the day was over, the company had gone out of business, their state contract had been cancelled and I was out of a job. My wife, daughter and I were 1800 miles from family with no job, no job prospects and no savings to speak of.

Once again, we were starting to build debt and having problems, but this time it wasn't because we weren't trying. Bad things happen to good people. I don't expect pity from this story, but I do anticipate some of you will be able to sympthize.

We were forced to move back closer to family and I took a job about 2 hours away from my wife's family. I worked there for two years and was making decent money. I was also engaged in running a small computer repair business on my own and we were making headway on our debt. Even managed to put money in the bank. This sure looked like home to us, so we bought a nice house (nothing fancy) and a car to replace the vehicle we'd all but worn out in the recent moves.

In my third year of employment, the business down-sized and my job evaporated. Without my regular job, the business wasn't able to support us. We were forced to move again and find work. We lost our house to the bank and a vehicle was sold to buy rent and groceries.

By this time, I knew we were in way over our heads. I'd promised I'd never do bankruptcy again, but our creditors were really getting ugly about our late or non-existent payments. So, we started looking for some help.

My wife found RMP and discussed our situation with them. They sounded genuine. We also did some checking and never found anything that raised our suspicions. This was a bit over 3 years ago and, from what I gather, this was before it "hit the fan" at RMP.

Now, we're out $5,200.00, have no money to settle with our creditors and are basically worse off than when we started. Not only are we out the RMP money, but we also still have creditors who need to get paid.

Hyla, I've never met you or talked with you. I don't know you as a person, so I will make no judgements. I need you to read this next part carefully and just take it in.

I'm a father and a husband. I have two lovely children and a wonderful wife. I am doing everything a man can do to try and provide a good life for my family. With my wife as my partner, we are attempting to lead responsible lives. We came to you for help. We trusted you. We put our hope in your ability to help us out of some dark times. It pains me to say it, but you've betrayed that trust.

I need our money back. Not just to pay our creditors, but to keep my dignity and sanity. I'm not out to buy more material goods with the money. I need it to keep a roof over my children's heads and food in their mouths.

Please, Hyla, send us our money back.

Wow...if you and Chris do not pay these people back their money that is owed to them, you have no heart!! How can you continue to drive your fancy Mercedes and live the life you are both living on other people's money??? Just how do you both sleep at night??? That is the question I have......

Wow...that post by k12techman brings tears to my eye..
I am sorry to say I think Hyla and Chris are thieves. Crooks. Con artists. No heart or soul.

She is a greedy exstripper and he is a failed business man. They have no morals..no regrets. They need to go to jail...both of them.

Hey SaraB,

I am from MD and so is Dale Boyd. I have been out of town for 2.5 weeks so I haven't logged on recently.... but when I got back into town, I checked my voicemail and it was Hyla telling me she wanted to talk with me about my online activities and returning my remaining balance she owes me. I called her back and OF COURSE, she has not returned my call. Any info you need Sara in filing that report, just let me know.

To SaraB,

Have you signed up for the forum so you can get a PM?
Yes, I too am from MD. I would to talk to you if you would sign-up I can send you a PM.

Hi all--- I registered now.
Go ahead and send me a PM if needed.
This is what I am looking to do---get a mutliple complaint group from MD to get files numbers set up for all of us under BBB, FTC and MD Attorney Gen's office. and with MD police.

I need fraud reports from all. or files numbers for complaints if you have em. I can't get ahold of anyone at MMG/RMP---what numbers are you all using now?

Its too bad to that their baby wont know them both for 5-10 years until they both get out of prison. He looks like he will make someone a great play toy and well she will be still be like she is.
They don't care, I looked and they arent selling anything else on Ebay, guess they are spending all our money from the sale of the house on more toys for themselves

To Guest who posted the following, please pm me with the info, I and others would appreciate your help!

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I received my cashiers check today. They took out $250 for refund fee. But the check was for a couple of thousand. Just to give a little hope to all out there.

Have you gotten everything back now citykid or are you still due some of your refund?

Citykid, Was your refund what you were expecting?

Ok all,
So the following emails are still successful and confirmed with delivery reciept: hyla(@)riskmp.com; mgerity(@)ig-law.com; and mike(@)riskmp.com; and response(@)riskmp.com

I am filing a fraud report and complaints with FTC, BBB, Md and AZ and TX Attorney Generals office and the police department.

But how in the world do you get them to talk to you---I mean outside of cussing them out--what?

By the way---while you continue to sit and read our emails and dodge us or ignore us----two words--debt management. Get your heads out of your ass and respond by following through with your own damn program. If you were going to scam people---as least be able to do it without contradicting your own set-up. You owe us money ---now pay it back.
And Mike---I'm looking to remove you legally from any law process permanently. You are in worse than Hyla and if you don't realize it---look it up--if busted --you'll do more time than her.

I like this guy...

When was the last time anyone heard either via phone or email from the ****
...I mean woman in question?

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I said earlier that she called me within the last 3 weeks or so. Left a message and now she is not responding to me.... after she called me.

For those of you who would be able to take Hyla and/or risk management to small claims court, please PM me. I need to explain some things to you.

Sorry I have been out of the loop for so long...I've been having the same problems as everyone else with logging on and other things.

choerlin...did you get my PM?

KristieC. what's the status with you? and Dale?

Yeah, that was what I was expecting. Except for the fee of course. But right now I don't really care. I considered the whole amount, $5000, a loss to be honest. That I got this far astonishes me.

I've been on this forum since about pg 20 something.... and I have read and researched ALOT! I finally got my money minus $699 in set-up and retainer fees in December 05. Approximately $5000. So in the month of January I called up my remaining creditors (3) and settled $14,400 worth of debt with the $5,000. I did this in one month!! What took Hyla so long and failing to do this when I was paying her to do this??? Well, because she wasn't even trying to negotiate my debt. I have written to numerous state and federal bureaus as well as spoke with an attorney. Any info you need, I will provide. If you read pg 96 or 97, you will see an email I posted that I had received from Hyla.... this email shows how rude and dileriuos (sp???) she has become.

As quoted by Hyla to KristieC.

"You want to pursue this issue, call my attorney. I have
NOTHING MORE TO SAY TO YOU, you have harrassed me, insulted me, and LIED to me, enough!!! I am issuing out TONS of refunds, and as fast as
possible. You need to go to work, and pay your bills, and MOVE ON WITH
YOUR LIFE."

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IS SHE INSANE??? WHAT DO YOU THINK WE'RE ALL WAITING TO DO BUT MOVE ON WITH OUR LIVES AS SOON AS THIS F***ING C*** GIVES US OUR MONEY BACK!!!

HYLA, YOUR TIME IS UP SWEETHEART, SOME NICE DYKE IN AZ'S FEDERAL PRISON IS WAITING TO MAKE YOU HER BITCH!

I used to know her, work for her. She is a truly nasty person and was a stripper/druggie who latched onto Chris(she met him at Bourbon St. Circus strip club in Phoenix, AZ while working there) because he had money to blow and was rich at the time. Chris only had money to blow on poor businesses and expensive lifestyle because he received a large amount of cash from divorcing his first wife who happened to be an heir of a rich family. I still wonder if they hid some of these funds somewhere or hid some of your client funds somewhere. I know how they think and I am sure they have been hording money somewhere to use for a way to get out of the mess they created for everyone including themselves.

It's funny how the way u all describe Hyla is her personality in real life to a t. Even though u havent even met her. Chris has a far more likeable personality than she, but dont forget that he is the mind behind the scam.

I hate to see their kids raised with parents in jail, but they need to be punished. then again if they dont repent to God they will be punished in the afterlife anyway. just dont let them destroy your lives. It isnt worth it. Anyone with food and family and a roof over their head is truly rich. I am not downplaying this nightmare at all but dont let those jerks ruin your life and outlook.

Michael Gerity is the laziest and worst attorney around. you won't get much done thru him. I cannot believe he still represents them. He must be scared of them or they are paying him under the table. You should all work on getting him disbarred for his involvement if anything.

Law Offices of Michael Eugene Gerity--age 37


Address: 2375 East Camelback Road
Suite 500
Phoenix, AZ 85016
Map & Directions

Phone: (602) 387-5300

Fax: (602) 387-5001

Anybody out there have any luck finding Laurie Daigle? I keep thinking she has a few keys to this puzzle. She seems to have gone to ground after our last contact. Wonder why....

To hclunie I have not ever recieved pm to my inbox. I believe a few were sent. I have received info by email only at choerlein(at)cinci(dot)rr(dot)com. And thanks very much for the email received. I check my inbox every day when I log in. If I can log in. I delete cookies and temp files but I'm still showing up as goofy14something or nothing. It takes several times to get logged in as myself. And lately even after I'm logged in and I go to the latest pages of the forum I loose being logged in. I don't know what else to do.If you hyave any suggestions could you please email me. with Forum in the subjectline.

City kid, great for you buddy, it has been a long hard fight with them i am glad that you got most of your refund like i did. It is just a shame that our lives had to be turned upsidedown over trusting these people, we all went to them for a good reason and most are like me they contacted me about helping me get my debts settled through lower my bills, what they did was cause me to have to file bankrupcy and loose my credit and months of worry and grief. I still want them to pay for all that they have done to everyone on this forum. The rudeness of hyla in that email is just showing what a poor poor business woman she really is and was. And don't forget that chris has caused most of this, he just stands like he is innocent in all of this but he is the master mind of it all. We shall see what becomes of these faud,scamming, lieing, cheating people in the end. You can just get away with it for so long. I would love to be standing there when they get theirs, to see the disappointment on her little face and the scaired look in her eyes when they come to arrest them and tell them they have the right to remain silent. This forum has a lot on it that she has done and said to all of us and i still have all the emails, letters, copies of everything that i went through with them. Enjoy it while you can hyla and chris, our turn is nexttttttt.

Well....they did it to me to! Bounced a check! Here's my response to her this morning:

Now I'm pissed! This is ridiculous! Not ONCE did I miss a payment nor did I bounce checks to your establishment. Your company has sent me a bounced check. It is illegal to send checks for insufficient funds.
I received notice from my bank today that the check for $1,000 that was sent to me for deposit on 5/30/06 was returned because your "paying bank indicates check may not be paid". On top of that, my bank is charging me a $10 fee. Can you understand my frustration? I faithfully paid your company thinking you were doing a service to me & this is how I am treated in getting my refund. As I see it, your company owes me this fee of $10 that my bank is charging me.
I will give you this....the first check for $1,000 cleared, thankfully. However, your company still owes me more than $3,500. Here's the payment schedule I have that "I" paid to you:
6/17/04: Set up fee.....$299.00
7/15/04: Retainer fee....$300.00
8/15/04: Retainer fee....$300.00
9/15/04: Settlement Payment....$300.00
10/15/04: Settlement Payment....$300.00
11/15/04: Settlement Payment....$300.00
12/15/04: Settlement Payment....$300.00
1/15/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00
2/15/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00
3/15/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00
4/15/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00
5/17/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00
6/15/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00
7/16/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00
8/17/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00
9/15/05: Settlement Payment....$300.00

If my math serves me correct, that's a total of $4,799. I will give you your $299.00 set up fee, but that's all. Your company did absolutely NOTHING for me but cause me to run myself into bankruptcy. Therefore your company owes me $4,500 less the $1,000 that cleared the bank.
How is this going to be handled? I no longer want a personal check from your company. It needs to be a cashier's check or some other form of payment so that I can be for certain that I will be getting paid.
The stall tactics are completely absurd!
Please contact me ASAP to let me know how this will be handled in an appropriate manner.

By the way...choerlein...I am in Northern KY.