Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Good morning everybody.

Mr. Saeang , BrokeinCali and Poultry...please check your PM inbox. I sent you a PM. Hope it helps. Thanks!

Good Night everybody. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Got to lawcash.com - complaint center - then finance - there you will see complaints for MMG - Everyone add their complaints - hopefully it will get noticed.

Hi, I'm MFK's friend. She actually referred me to MMG (when it was MMG) back in December 2004. Is anyone else out there from MA involved w/this board and if so, any advice?

Flippin in MA... read the forum and get plenty of advice.

I have read the forum from page 1. I'm wondering if anyone out there is from MA and if so, where to start. I've emailed Mike Gerity (Hyla's attorney) and cc'd Hyla and asked if he could provide any help to cancel my account w/RMP. I know he read the email since I asked for a read receipt. No response...yet!

Don't expect one... I emailed both numerous times and never once got an email from him.... even after he posted (on pg 12) to email him. I think I would make a complaint to the Arizona State Bar, I heard he is on this whole scam so I would not trust him. If you read the entire forum than you should know that you must write to the FTC, FBI, IRS and to your senator. You should send Hyla a written cancellation letter certified mail so you know she received it (I would probably notarize it also) and also cancel your account THOUGH YOUR BANK, especially if she is not responding to you via phone or email. If you are talking to a tax advisor this tax season, then ask about if you can claim your money as a loss.... that would mean Hyla would have to claim this as her gain, this will bring the IRS involved which is what needs to happen. You need to revoke your Power of Attorney.... someone posted a link to get the form... Revocation of Power of Attorney. I finally got my money back after months of writing and fighting... but not all of it and I am still pissed off. You must be steadfast and continually call or email, even if it means 5 times a day to both her and her attorney.

As you read this forum, you saw that this is a nationwide problem. RMP has clients all over the US and I have read posts from people from Ohio, Mass, Wisconsin, NY, Georgia, Florida, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Minnesota, and many more... the list keeps going on. All the advice you need is in this forum, from those of us who have been at this for a very long time. There is no easy answer or easy way to get your funds back, unfotunately. We were all suckered in this program and all got screwed.

Again, I was told by the attorney who already tried Hyla, Craig Raby who works for the Arizona State Banking Dept, that the only people that can help are the FTC (since this is now their jurisdiction), or a private attorney. I was told by my senator's office that the FTC must respond to senator's complaints and let them know who is investigating the case and a time line of resolution.

Basically, your first step is to stop having your money taken out because all it is going towards is somebody else's refund not your credit cards. I personally closed my old bank account and opened a new one up because as many times as they change names, who knows what kind of shady stuff they could do in the future under a different name.

You believe this? I get a responce from the finance dept after asking where
the hell my refund was seeing how we are now in month six.

No one has ever "promised" you that your refund will be issued within a
month and a half. Our cancellation letter, that you signed, clearly states
that the 4-6 week timeframe is "estimated" NOT "guaranteed". Our
department is working on finalizing your refund.

This message is to Guest. Thank you for your response, I appreciate your help!

Citykid - I have told Hyla and Mike both that they need to revise their 4-6 weeks to more like over a year. May will be a yeaar for me

If you haven't already - submit a complaint to lawcash.com

I hear ya citykid, its b.s. They specifically say when you cancel that the refund will be issued in an estimated 4-6 weeks after receiving a signed cancellation letter.(In my world I believe this to mean estimated between the weeks 4 through 6 and I would think anything longer than 6 weeks means okay time to call and see why It's taking longer than 4-6 weeks...Oh Yeah, I forget nobody answers the phones or e-mails and when they do they blackmail or at least in my case.)It doesn't say it will be issued in an estimated 4-48 weeks.(maybe then I wouldn't have to worry about why and the heck its been 48 and half weeks since I've been waiting for my refund and the half weeks wouldn't be so bad.. )It may be estimated but it still is a 4-6 weeks time frame they give to us.

It may mean that no more refunds are going out. The Stantons settled their lawsuit with the payroll company (as expected). I'm sure that they agreed to pay at least 5 figures with other peoples money. They Stantons are pathetic cowards. They are scared to death of that lien on their property from a judgment.

USDagger - You never finished your story about the visit to the new RMP office. Please fill me in.

ok finally pulled the scary trigger and stopped payment into my "trust account". I have sent letters to the people I need to and now I guess I play the waiting game. I have been monitering this site for a couple months and it just confirmed my suspsions. Glad to know Im not alone. Lets get whats coming to us guys.

From the finance dept...

Our department is still in the process of obtaining ALL the letters from
your creditors confirming that ALL Power of Attorney's are removed from
your creditors office/files and ALL funds are verified.

My last creditor, who I settled with, said they refuse to send a letter. Since I took away the power of attorney, RMP is a third party. They will not corrospond with a third party. What the hell am I to do?

citykid... just keep fighting. Keep in close contact with the investigator from your senator's office.

They now have this address listed on the BBB dallas
PO Box 742588
Dallas, TX 75374
Ofcourse they are not showing their complaints yet from all of us.
I did receive a letter from the Department of Consumer Affairs in Nevada. They determined that the best agencies to help would be The Attorney Generals office in AZ and Dallas. We know where AZ stands. They fowarded my info to dallas, az, and the FTC. The attorney generals # for Dallas is 214-969-5310.
EVERYONE KEEP THE MINDSET THAT WE WILL GET OUR REFUND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

Are any of the other readers here located in Michigan? If so, what is your situation?

Just got this in an email....

Quote:

To mavric, that totally does not surprise me! This company is completely ridiculous!!! I've sent them a letter (by fax) and email to cancel my account. Now I'm not able to access my account online at all, I just get a message saying "We're sorry, yout account is currently on hold. If you wish to resume your settlement payments and take your account off hold please contact us at blah, blah blah." I have tried contacting them by phone and email and have not gotten any response! I even emailed the attorney, Mike Gerity, I've asked for read receipts on my emails and he has read them!!! What an A**hole!!!

Like I said before, Mike Gerity needs to be reported to the Arizona State Bar. I believe and have been told that he helped set this scam up with the Stantons.

I am unable to access my account as well. Dont know why its not like there was a lot of information on there. What are they scared of? Documentation showing what they SHOULD have been doing and not doing it?? Or are they thinking I wont know how much of my money I should be getting back?

I have tried to log on but have been unsuccessful. I too am still waiting for my refund. I have been sending e-mails to the Finance Department with no response. I have even sent a letter to President Bush. I have sent all my info and complaints to all the bureaus, BBB of Arizona, Arizona Attorney General and Arizona State Department of Banking as well as the senator from my state of Maryland. I did receive a response from the FTC, stating they would foward my complaint to the appropriate people. Whatever it takes I am going to keep writing until I get all of my money.

ok, just called Hyla at 775-220-6485, the mailbox is full but did left a page with my # to call me. Let's see if she has the decency to call back.

By Mr. Gerity's lack of concern regarding all of this, ignoring emails etc...it really appears as though he is in on this as well. I wonder how many complaints the AZ State Bar needs before they will step in and investigate his involvement? Myself and others will be sending in MANY in the near future!!!!!! We ALL need to complain to the AZ State Bar, I am sure he is having a ball spending everyones money as well!!

ok, hyla did call me back (thank god for caller id), but either she hung up or the call was disconnected before anything could be said. Hyla, if you are reading these posts, please call me at 1-617-791-****, I need to talk to you re: a/c ****!!!

Personal info removed for your safety - Vikas

Guest, I wouldn't trust what Hyla would tell you anyway. She had the nerve to call my phone and tell me that I had better stop posting to this website or she would not refund all my money to me. Which, to me is what I call black-mail. I told her I would not post if she would refund all my money to me, and of course she never did. I have been waiting for my refund for a little over One Year now. Its nothing but lies anyway.

To Dale Boyd,

I too am from Maryland. We need to talk. Can you private message me? I recently got a refund back, most of it but not all of it. I have complained to several Congressmen and I need to know who your contact at Mikulski's office is. Maybe if you also write to the same ones I contacted something might happen.

Anybody else from Maryland?

Thanks swtgal 77. She did not call me back again. The nerve...

this company sux the big one!

By the way, I didn't mean for my username to coincide with the real BBB! :lol:

don't forget everyone, today is Tekkain's last day. Let's wish him bon voyage, and pray that he falls overboard and drowns...

Has anyone had any of their creditors paid by RMP???

If so, how long did it take??
Why are they moving to Texas???

MFK, cancel your account with this company immediately, this company is stealing your $$$!

hey all...sorry i have not been on...WORK is a bear this time of the year...looooooong days and short nights.....about to get longer until May....anyway...I am so sorry to hear that Tekkain has left (tear, tear) He was an A**&^%$!!!!

To all newcomers to the site...GET OUT OF MMG/RMP NOW...it is all a scam. Follow any and ALL of the suggested actions to take...it is a lot of reading but worth it...
Let's all hang in there...I will try to check back weekly!!

Hey people,
I searched the Texas BBB and this is the new address for the scum suckers: 5605 N. MacArthur Blvd. #10
Irving, TX 75038
Telephone: (775) 841-9327 ....NOt sure if it(the address,etc.) will post on this site or if someone else already posted it.
They are operating under the same name, Risk Management Partners, Ltd !!!! I cannot believe that the government is letting them go from state to state ripping people off! It seems as though the BBB is just not enough to see whether a business is a scam or not! Otherwise, I would never be in the rut that I am in now! We need much better, more efficient government agencies than the ones we have at present!

Kristie, I would like to pm you but I have not been able to log on. I know you said you did receive a refund. How long did it take you to get it after you cancelled with MMG/RMP?

Dale, it took over 6 month and alot of B*#@ S*&^! I wrote to Ruppersberger's office, my boss has a contact there, Cardin's office, Currin's office... in the end, all my letters were passed to the FTC or to Arizona's State Bureaus. I even spoke with an attorney. Also spoke with Mikulski's office.

I had to basically email Hyla and all her email addresses multiple times a day. Everytime I did that, I cc'd her attorney, who never responded. Hyla threatened to sue me for Harrassment... I was not scared and kept writing anyway. She has no chance in court as her track record proves. Dale, get your power of attorney revoked.

Kristie, I am going to revoke my power of attorney today, I would love to e-mail Hyla and her attorney. Do you have the e-mail addresses?

Dale, Hyla's email is: hyla(at)riskmp.com, her attorney, Michael Gerity's email is mgerity(at)ig-law.com

Good Luck!

Kristie, When you got your refund from MMG/RMP did you get it through the mail? When I asked about my refund I was told it through UPS. Was it a check from a bank?

Dale, I also got my refund from MMG minus the first payment and yes it did come by ups and it was a cashier;s check. It took me several months of frustration to get mine though, if you aren't out with them get out now,

What steps should I take to revoke my power of attorney. Is a letter or e-mail sufficient or is there a form to fill out?

Slburs, send them a letter, email, fax, whatever you have access to, they will still tell you that you have to sign their form that they will mail to you , if you are still paying them stop now, if it comes out of your bank account like most of us here, do what I had to do , go to your bank and tell them what you are going through with MMG and that you cancelled with them and close out your bank account so they do not have access to get any more money out of you, you can re open a new account with your bank the very same day that you close your account, believe me I went through it all with them, so much stress and worry and lost my perfect credit because of these people, just get out now, all of you that are still paying , I know it is hard to believe but we all went through a mess and still are going through it with them, I trusted this company to do what their contract stated and I never missed a payment for a year and a half and they didn't do anything that they said they would do just ruiened my life and credit and nerves, listen to us and stop payments to this place, they are not paying any of your debts off,

To Dale,

They told me I was going to get it UPS but not true. A certified check from Bank of America came by regular mail. The actually split my refund up into 2 checks which were about 2-3 weeks apart.... would've been longer I am sure but I kept complaining about it everyday, numerous times a day so I am sure they were sick of me and wanted me to leave them alone.

To Silburs,

I posted a link a few pages back (can't remember off the top of my head what it is right now) but it is a Revocation of Power of Attorney letter you can use and fill out. I got 2 copies done and both notarized. I sent one back to RMP at the new Texasa address certified mail so I know they got it. But MadMom was talking about the cancellation letter for RMP that they send to you stating you will get your refund in an estimated 4-6 weeks. These are 2 different letters.

Kristie, I have e-mailed Hyla and also tried to leave a message for her by phone but of course she does not return phone calls or messages. I am still going to do what ever it takes to get my money back. If it means calling everyday then that's what I am going to do. I keep a log of all the phonecalls I make and all the e-mails I send.

I tried sending them a letter to their Nevada adress and it came back addresse unknown. I have since sent to the following addresses can anyone confirm if these are correct or not?


5605 N. MacArthur Blvd. #10
Irving, TX 75038
Telephone: (775) 841-9327

Additional Addresses
2533 N. Carson St.Suite 4
Carson City, NV 89706

PO Box 742588
Dallas, TX 75374

Additional Phone Numbers
(800) 877-1801
866-948-9222
877-225-5736

Mavric,

You can verify the address with BBB website. Better Business Bureau is an authentic source undoubtedly.

Dale,

Did you use the 'Free sign up' on the left hand side... then we could private message.

Stan,

Thanks for that info, the BBB is where I got that info, but its good to know seeing how shady these guys are.

I have talked with a lawyer and they are sending them letters for my refund. Hopefuly this will speed up the process.

Hello to all...After waiting for 5 months for my refund and numerous unreturned phone calls, I decided to look into this business further. Upon further review, I have found nothing good. Before I found this website, I had filed a claim with the NV BBB, and since I found out they had moved to TX, I have filed a claim with the Dallas BBB. Upon reading all 61 pages here, I think I can chalk the BBB up for a loss. I had contacted a lawyer in TX, but he has not returned my call. I am not out near as much as some of you, but it still makes me very upset to hear everyone else's stories. I cancelled my account in early October 2005 and had been with RMP since May of 2004. Thankfully I had funny feelings about them early.